Right to a house?

You and me both wolf

Yes it is wrong for people to be in the mindset that they should get a free house. It is important to work for what you want.

I work long hours in the hope that I will be able to purchase a property. I am on an average enough salary but my salary x3.5 is nowhere near enough to get a property. So have to save for approximately 10-15 years to top up mortgage with cash.

I am not moaning about it but affordable housing needs to be available for those not on high salaries.

Michael D. was absolutely right with the comments he made about housing. It is a disaster.

If you’re 40 and don’t have a house it has to be asked what were you doing in your twenties .And if the answer was having fun or travelling well ,you made your bed …Plenty of 40 year old we’re saving their arse off and having no fun in their 20 & 30s and now have a house to show for it.It’s people in their twenties now who are screwed through no fault of their own.40 + year olds without a house at the moment will largely be due to your own life choices.

No. Beer out of bottles and wine out of cans. I'm fierce classy like that

Seriously!? Were you dragged up?

Same here, I don't watch judge Judy either, I watch judge Rinder

That sounds like a fetish judge. Any links?

except it becomes everyones problem.

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Ta fook!

I wasn't far off!

Wow judgemental much ?

We do what we're doing..hostels, hotels or direct provision. But that doesn't seem to be ever enough, everyone seemingly deserves a home of their own no matter what they've ever contributed to society.

And people wonder why they can't afford a home, and congratulate Michael D on words well said. He was speaking at a homeless charity opening of accommodation for homeless people. The irony, it is this very policy which is leading to the disaster!

If anyone in authority had any balls they would come out and say that anyone seeking housing who doesn't contribute should be thankful for what they're offered. People who complain about not being able to afford a house yet support housing provision for everyone have only themselves to blame.

I don't give a sh1t about homeless people, everyone makes their own lives, if you want to provide for them then don't complain about your own lot.

I particularly said people who don't contribute, we're all paying for those who don't, the provision of housing for them is directly affecting those that you mention. The underclass are now those who work minimum wage, there is no reward for them, is it any wonder there are vacancies everywhere?

By contribute I presume you mean take up paid employment.

Yet there are many in paid employment as you say that have no chance of paying the rent on a place of their own.

There is always a fluidity in the numbers needing help with accommodation but the latest available figures suggest that nationally there are about 10,000 homeless with about 3,000 of those being children.

If you break that down into family units, various categories of disability, long term illness etc. you would probably need about 5000 to 6000 houses to house them all.

Even if it was socially desirable to house them all in hostels and direct provision facilities the number of houses made permanently available to the working poor would not solve their problem.

Here's a fella that moved here and is unable to support himself and his family n requires a house. It is high time we stopped unskilled migration into the country - the Brits have pulled up the drawbridge n paddy is the only show in town now.

Someone posted stats on another thread and iirc there was 80-90k new pps numbers for immigrants in the last year excluding Ukrainians which were another 35k. Crazy numbers.

RTE.ie: Focus Ireland: Meath County Council letter to homeless family 'counterproductive'.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0617/1305579-meath-homeless/

I'm not a fan of those "4EVA HoMe" people either.

That's forgetting that people in their forties now lived through the recession. Plenty of people were responsible in their twenties and got caught up in the mess that was the recession, only able to rent and now even doing that is excessively expensive.

A right to a house isn't something any reasonable person is arguing for, a housing market that isn't massively weighted in favor of rich speculators taking supply away from working people is a reasonable notion and not something to be dismissed out of hand.

We are living in a time where even renting an apartment is nigh on impossible never mind finding a home to buy within a reasonable distance of the of the one city everything in this country is centralised around without having won the lottery.

Saying people are getting what they deserve for traveling in their twenties is reductive in the extreme.

Think a distinction needs to be made between the people who are complaining about housing in that they expect to be housed but the lists, locations offered etc are not what they want. Then there are people (like myself) complaining about housing in that my partner and I who are tax payers, both have post graduate degrees and decent jobs and yet will likely never be able to afford a good house. Our parents generation would’ve been able to save for a few years and get a mortgage, properties within their reach that I would never even dream of being able to live in.

And that’s sad. We’ve done everything right in life that we could and have just been completely and utterly shafted.

The “I’m alright Jack, I’ve got mine, go **** yourself” attitude espoused by OP and many of the older generations would make you sick.