Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

There is no way that he went trying to source 2 Rolexs to "save face". It doesn't pass the sniff test. Anyone with even a small bit of common sense in that situation would have just said "sorry, I've already sold the other two watches, needed the money and couldn't wait around. I'll send that money back to you now". That would have been the end of it.

He can try out whatever spin he wants on it, but at the end of the day he stole that money.

TO be fair as soon as he got the money from Nico he should have returned it and said the watches were sold...instead he used the money for other things and dragged it out trying to make himself whole again through other deals. He kept the money for watches he didn't own. Sure Nico was late paying but thats not cricket. He was not Doxxed publically only on a dealer only chat where dealer tend to exchange info on bad customers and dodgy dealers....that 4separateeallegationss come up at the same time is an indication that whatever ponzi scheme he runs with his finances are in trouble....yet all the time out his mouth is claims of : I am too rich to be bothered, I wear an AP why would I steal. These are the same things I hear from time to time when I have delinquent debts in my business, delay, reassure, redirect blame....classic moves when you are living beyond your means, oh and the bank closed my account, and I couldnt get a train, and I am busy doing art......total horseshit.

He offered to settle his debts if and only if he handed over his AP as collateral, which is worth way more than the debts. Thorpe forgot to point that out. We can't blame O'Malley for declining that, can we? 😂

You could well be right there. Oisin had bought the AP from Spencer. Nico mentioned a debt to Spencer in the phone call yesterday. Oisin said he had settled that (but the offer from Thorpe likely predates paying back Spencer as that sounded like a recent payment). Very foolish of Spencer to hand over a watch to anyone, even someone "in the circle of trust" without having received payment.

I guess that circle of trust has one fewer member now anyway 😂

@893bet has a plausible explanation for that above!

If he is flipping, prices haven’t got that bad yet for him to lose a fortune . He’s mostly dabbled in SS sports rolex so if he cashed out now he would still be up or at least even.

For all the ponce from him of the luxury lifestyle he doesn’t seem to have or maintain any sort of expensive lifestyle when you think about it . A few spritz in cafe Florian is expensive but it won’t send you broke .Apart from the watches which would still be within 10% of recent purchase prices at worst , where would the rest of the cash be going I wonder? Maybe he still has it but is just being a pr*ck and won’t hand it over .

Cyrus "Mr private jet sweating over 10k" - hummm indeed had not considered that. Fair point. All these social media types are living well beyond their means, and when you watch them it makes you feel inadequate that your not achieving what these guys seem to be able to do so easily and with minimal tallent. But truth is anyone on here likely would not swap lives with them if you knew the truth of it all.

Scwazrh "For all the ponce from him of the luxury lifestyle he doesn’t seem to have or maintain any sort of expensive lifestyle when you think about it" Well you have to remember he DOESNT HAVE A JOB. He seems to roll from one big pay day to the next like after arranging the national anthem for Aruba (must have been a million euro contract its mentioned so much 😄), no regular income. Youtube pay is pathetic and his channel is small and stagnate. He is buying 100k of Rolex every year and venice ain't cheap. Sitting around making video's, eating and drinking and living in venice like a retired millionaire is an expensive lifestyle.

893Bet "cos he ain’t paid for the AP fully yet to Spenser." - think you are onto something there, and that the AP is even in the discussion would indicate that Spenser and Paul feel there is risk with the debt on that watch.

All a load of bollox, but at the crux of the matter is Oisin owes money and wont pay, has other peoples watches and wont return them. In a way there are so many allegations against his at the moment, that he can hide in the small details and argue point in there to try get around the overriding truth.

The national income of Aruba is barely a million 😂

Just speculating here but I'd say most of his regular income is from being a professional flipper. He seems to get a lot of Rolex steel sports from his ADs (at retail), one or two a month is plenty to live his lifestyle off, without any other regular income of substance.

Thats the problem with being a liar....you have to have a long memory. His pandering to a audience of lower costs watch collectors has always been obvious and condescending, the fact that people lapped it up like cats at a saucer of cream has always had me scratching my head .

He is Walter Mitty. Fantasy world where he is the hero.

When you tie it in to the personal jibs about weight etc on Nico. And the personal jibs he was making about the French lass you can see how ugly, and manipulative he is really is.

Its going to be somewhat fascinating to see how it develops.

Last paragraph is probably true, will claim mental health issues to garner more sympathy, deflect from his acts or inactions. Always felt his channel was a self promotion platform where he would create his own reality. And you are right everything he is claiming to be the victim of he has done to others in the past, openly and publicly.

The way he spoke to Nico on the phone was really dark. I have never in my life spoken to anyone like that nor been on the receiving end of such anger. He has it in him when cornered and it certainly colors the stories of domestic abuse by his previous girlfriend.

To be fair he does fall into the Narcissist category and they are prone to alcoholism, drugs and serious mental health issues. Here is the list, you need to have 5 to be diagnosed. I think our Oisin hits a home run on every one. While its fun to speculate on the drama on here I have to also appreciate that the guy may need help and this shitstorm will be causing him more anguish than it would to others because its removing the adulation from others he so needs.

Nine Signs and Symptoms of Narcissism

Symptoms – called core features – of narcissistic personality disorder (narcissism) include:

1. Grandiosity
   • Exaggerated sense of self-importance
   • Feeling superior to others and that one deserves special treatment
   • Feelings are often accompanied by fantasies of unlimited success, brilliance, power, beauty, or love
2. Excessive need for admiration
   • Must be the center of attention
   • Often monopolize conversations
   • Patients feel slighted, mistreated, depleted, and enraged when ignored
3. Superficial and exploitative relationships
   • Relationships are based on surface attributes and not the unique qualities of others
   • People are only valued only to the extent they are viewed as beneficial 
4. Lack of empathy
   • Severely limited or totally lacking ability to care about the emotional needs or experiences of others, even loved ones
5. Identity disturbance
   • Sense of self is highly superficial, extremely rigid, and often fragile
   • Self-stability depends on maintaining the view that one is exceptional
   • Grandiose sense of self is easily threatened
   • Patients retreat from or deny realities that challenge grandiosity 
6. Difficulty with attachment and dependency
   • Relies on feedback from the environment
   • Relationships only exist to shore up positive self-image
   • Interactions are superficial
   • Intimacy is avoided 
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness and boredom
   • When attention and praise are not available, patients feel empty, bored, depressed, or restless
8. Vulnerability to life transitions
   • Difficulty maintaining reality-based personal and professional goals over time
   • Compromises required by school, jobs, and relationships may feel unbearable
   • Young adults may have a “failure to launch” 
9. Narcissistic personality disorder is also a significant risk factor for suicide and suicidal attempts.