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2022 Executive Officer Civil Service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Pamelabeasley


    I only had a leaving cert and was placed from the 2020 panel - these are only the entry requirements to apply to the competition, how well you do will depend totally on your scores in the various competency tests and the interview, nothing to do with your education!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    That's great to know. Will give it a lash so. Thanks again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    My first time applying for EO was the 2020 campaign. I would be pretty good with numbers, graphs, etc, but I found the numerical test to be awful and I wasn't alone in that. Hopefully they won't be the same with this one.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    @furrybones can you remember what the the numerical questions that were particularly bad were asking you to do? I've never applied for a civil service competition before so no idea what to expect on the testing front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Do all gaps in employment need to be accounted for?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Dyldo93


    Hey everyone, looking to pivot out of retail management but would I be correct in my interpretation that having sat only 4 exams at HL in the LC (even though I exceed the Maths, Irish/English requirements) I'm not eligible?

    "have obtained in the Established Leaving Certificate Examination a minimum of Grade D (or post 2017 Leaving Certificate O6 grade) at Ordinary level in Mathematics and Irish or English, having obtained a minimum of Grade C (or post 2017 Leaving Certificate H4 grade) in at least five subjects at Higher level"

    I did spend two years in university but left without my degree so I would also assume that I'm ineligible based on the below criteria also (passed all my exams in 1st year of a lvl 7 but didn't stay long enough to get said lvl 7)

    "have completed and passed all examinations in Year 1 of a three or four-year programme leading to a minimum Level 7 qualification on the Quality and Qualifications Ireland (QQI) National Framework of Qualifications"


    Apologies on the formatting, any help or advice would be much appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Have you applied because this competition is closed now?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Dyldo93


    Is the application deadline not the 2nd of June or am I reading something incorrectly on the Public Jobs site?



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    @laoisgem the competition is open until 3pm on the 2nd of June as far as I can see. @Dyldo93 I'd say in your scenario contacting PAS directly might be a good shout.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Apologies, confusing this competition with another

    I would advise contacting PAS also but I wouldn't get my hopes up



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Dyldo93


    @mtb_sends and @laoisgem fair! Thanks a million for the advice!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem




  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    I can't remember. I think I was traumatised after those tests 😂 From what I've read, you just need to pass the numerical as that score isn't counted towards your OOM. Doing well in the other 2 is what gets you a good score.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Ahshurlookit


    While this has been true in the past the recent interdepartmental HEO competition ran by PAS was only verbal and numerical with both scores counting towards your OOM.



  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    Would this always have been the case with the HEO competition?

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Ahshurlookit


    No, it's the first time I've seen it from any PAS competition at any grade. EO and HEO previously were always verbal and situational combined to get OOM and only a pass in numerical required.



  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 anmrh2018


    Could someone give me an example of what "achievement" there are giving in employment history section?

    first time I have seen that listed, its normally just the duties & responsibilities


    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭cnn27


    Maybe a random question but would anyone know what the age range of a typical applicant would be for this? I'm thinking of a career change from teaching, but at 36, am wondering if I'm a bit too old to apply for this and if they'd look more favourably at younger applicants.



  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    All ages apply for these competitions. I know many who came into the civil service in their 40's and 50's.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Left teaching myself to join civil service. Far less stress. Of the few who started with me, all were over 30. Few in their early 50s



  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Just submitted my application. I narrowly missed out on the 2020 campaign as I didn't meet the competency cut-off points after the interview. Fingers crossed that this time around I have a bit more luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,210 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Hello, I was hoping for some pointers on the EO Application form if anyone could spare a minute? On the form do you need to outline how you meet each of the 6 competency criteria?

    The form asks you to outline your Responsibilities and Achievements for roles which you worked, but nothing is mentioned about the competencies. I only ask because the separate information booklet makes mention of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem




  • Registered Users Posts: 2 lauren12345


    Same here, I think i'm going to try and fit a competency into each of the employments. Its max 4000 words on each once. I wonder will we have a competency based application at a later stage or is this it. Can anyone who has already submitted application give any pointers please and thanks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 anmrh2018


    for 2020 application the competencies with examples were for interview stage....what you listed as your role/ duties/ responsibilities were asked about in the interview and you were to expand with examples in line with competencies listed

    Application is different this year, its generally a PDF form you populate and for each employment asked for "list of duties, salary, etc.,"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 lauren12345


    Yeah im lost its the word count that has thrown me was just going to do general list of duties and put in some achievement but that only came to 200/4000 words. So do u think there will be a competency application prior to interview 🤔 @anmrh2018



  • Registered Users Posts: 46 imagusaran


    I'm currently a Clerical Officer from the 2020 Panel and have applied for this one. From experience, the application form doesn't tend to ask about competencies because they save that part for the interview. Literally all the questions I had in my interview were all about the competencies apart from the introduction and any questions I had at the end. I feel like if the application were to focus on them, they would have specified this. I feel that the application form is more of a formality but also gives the interviewers an overview into your background so that they have an idea of what sort of work you will be speaking about. In the introduction for my CO interview, they went through my background saying things like, I see you went to college here and then began to work here etc... By all means, mention them in your application if you want to or if you want to bulk it up a bit but I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it, especially cos the deadline is this Thursday!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 anmrh2018


    @lauren12345 what normally follows is an assessment questionnaire…work situations that you answer questions on then numerical, verbal assessments, then an etray exercise and then interview

    the achievements part of it has thrown me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    Any reason to add any other education other than degree like leaving cert?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭divillybit


    I filled out the 2022 application a few days ago just to be in the system again but I did an interview for the 2020 campaign last week. Haven't heard how I did yet. I had the 2022 application filled out in a few mins and didn't include much about achievements. Given the number of applicants I doubt PAS will look closely at what it written in the application form, it's just to get you enrolled in the system. It seem to me the application form gets looked at when you reach interview stage. You might put a lot of work into the application form but it won't matter a jot as ultimately its your OOM results from doing the various tests like the numerical / verbal reasoning and etray will be what decides if you progress or not. Just be sure to have an application of some description submitted before the closing date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭CiboC


    I went into the CS from the last EO competition (2020), and I'm in my early 50's.... If you get through the tests and interview age doesn't come into it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭skidmarkoner


    My current office is mostly people aged 30 and above.


    I'm 30 and one of the youngest in the room. 36 is never to late to start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭baldbear


    I'm a civil service outsider and wondering is the role stressful? I'm guessing the positions are lightyears away ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 32 jasoncoylerd


    Anyone advise where is best to practice the numerical and verbal reasoning tests?



  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Inmate2020


    Not at all … there is a few young sprouts alright .. I moved from SE to civil service aged 40 . And in my dept section I think only 2 are younger than me 😆😆



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Fonzy1991


    I have applied for 2022 campaign too. There is 1 person ahead of me on OOM from the 2020 campaign, for my area of choice. I hope I get placed but placements are moving painfully slow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭RichPersonInsideAPoor


    Anyone here apply for the HSA EO panel? Or know if there’s a separate thread for it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    @RichPersonInsideAPoor yeah I applied for it, haven't done the aptitude tests yet though



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭RichPersonInsideAPoor


    The test is easy just 1 section called admin dilemmas it took me less than 20mins. it’s 20 scenarios and you rate each of the 4 responses so I hope I did ok. I found it grand so fingers crossed. Do u have any idea how many EO they’re likely to hire? My fear is it’s only about 10 or 15 nationwide because I think there’s only about 300 staff in the HSA nationwide.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Fonzy1991




  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭RichPersonInsideAPoor


    No it closed the end of May it’s at test stage now



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  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    @RichPersonInsideAPoor I haven't done it yet but will do it before Friday. I have accepted another position since I applied for it so its highly unlikely that I would proceed with my application even if I was successful after the tests. The only reason I want to do them is they may be useful for nationwide EO campaign which I also applied for and intend to see through. I have no clue about how many positions/applicants there will be to be honest. I don't think they are ICT positions, but if they were, it would be significantly easier to get to interview stage and beyond due to the current wages on offer in the private sector.


    @Fonzy1991 No it closed on the 26th of May unfortunately.



  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Eliza1


    I joined as a CO when I was 56. Went to EO from the open panel the following year and then got the internal HEO 2 years ago. Best move I ever made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭skidmarkoner


    How is everyone prepping for the tests?

    I have done some mock ones on Public jobs but kind of hoping people have some more tips to try bump up my score. I know I can fly it through etray and interview but the original OOM always let's me down.


    Any tips would be much appreciated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Just1more


    Is there any handwritten exam or assessment at any stage or is it all done on a computer?



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Sunshine_21


    Hi All. Just received any email from public jobs this evening

    Stage one for the above mentioned compeititon will take place in June 2022. Information about stage one will issue to candidates publicjobs message board in mid June 2022.



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