Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Thank you for confirming that you are a re-reg or had multiple accounts. What were the account names? Always good to have honesty so we know where everyone stands.

This tactic seems to be a result of the grifters shifting their grift away from detailed and specific claims. It's more profitable for them to keep things vague to allow the theories they're selling to fit with more worldviews. The best way to do this is to ask questions for their suckers to answer for themselves.

So when a grifter asks stuff like "Why are they pushing dangerous vaccines?", by not supplying it can fit with people who believe "Because they're trying to depopulate the planet" as well as with people who believe "cause they're just in it for profit." Or with people who think "it's the mark of the beast!"

And since conspiracy theorists seem to only be able to parrot what they hear from their grifters, they can only ask the same open ended questions.

Also, I think a lot of them have learned from previous interactions with friends and family that if they are open and clear about what they believe, the conversation never goes great for them. Either because what they believe is so ridiculous and/or they are not able to actually explain it. So they've found that sticking to vague, non-committal questions makes them sound cooler and more informed and mysterious than if they just admit they believe it's the lizard people or the Jews or whatever.

*Whilst lecturing everyone else to "question everything"

And another out of context quote with no source misrepresented by an anti-vaxxer.

Is there a reason you're not providing a source?

Is it because you didn't get one in the tweet you're copying it from?

Or is it because you know the link doesn't actually support what you're claiming?

your factually incorrect.

The vaccine has full license and approval from the FDA - it moved from 'emergency' license in 2021. the use of the vaccine in some circumstances / demographics is still under EUA .. it is fully approved for the main demographic.

Also - of course they can't predict with 100% accuracy of what the future revenues will be for the covid vaccine - as they have no certainty around when it will no longer be required, superseded by a different product / competitor .. which vaccines schedules it will be included on (if any) and of course how the new anti-virals will work.

So .. selective quoting from a 34 page document proves that you know nothing about it and it is a clear attempt by people to discredit the vaccine.

Clutching at straws really

and just so you can see - below from the horse mouth is the FDA confirming that Pfizer's vaccine is full approved for over 16s ..... not an emergency license ... not an experiment ... not a trial. So if you say any different you are telling lies, are misinformed or are just parroting nonsense you got from grifters.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

Context below: (clue: it's a disclaimer)

SEC filing for 2021.

D. Risk Factors

Our business is subject to various risks, including those described below. You should consider carefully the risks and uncertainties described below and in our future filings. If any of the following risks are realized, our business, financial condition, results of operations and prospects could be materially and adversely affected. Additionally, risks and uncertainties not currently known to us or that we currently deem to be immaterial also may materially adversely affect our business, financial condition, results of operations and/or prospects.

Investing in the ADSs involves various risks. You should carefully read and consider the matters discussed in this Annual Report under the heading “Risk Factors,” which include the following risks:

•Our revenue depends heavily on sales of our COVID-19 vaccine, and our future revenues from our COVID-19 vaccine are uncertain.

•Our reported commercial revenue is based on preliminary estimates of COVID-19 vaccine sales and costs from Pfizer Inc., or Pfizer, as Pfizer’s fiscal quarter for subsidiaries outside the United States differs from ours and creates an additional time lag. These estimates are likely to change in future periods, which will impact our reported financial results.

•We may not be able to demonstrate sufficient efficacy or safety of our COVID-19 vaccine and/or variant-specific formulations to obtain permanent regulatory approval in the United States, the United Kingdom, the European Union, or other countries where it has been authorized for emergency use or granted conditional marketing approval.

•Significant adverse events may occur during our clinical trials or even after receiving regulatory approval, which could delay or terminate clinical trials, delay or prevent regulatory approval or market acceptance of any of our product candidates.

•We face significant competition from other makers of COVID-19 vaccines and may be unable to maintain a competitive market share for our COVID-19 vaccine.

•We have only recently built our marketing and sales organization. If we are unable to continue to increase our marketing and sales capabilities on our own or through third parties, we may not be able to market and sell our product candidates effectively in the United States and other jurisdictions, if approved, or generate product sales revenue.

Note the word "may". You are an airline company, the risks that face your investors: your planes MAY crash, which MAY affect share price. It doesn't mean they will crash. Jesus christ.

@323 When you don’t understand the document or context you make yourself Look foolish when you try to make it look like you understand. It’s ok not to understand something, but it is not ok to lie about it to push an agenda based on bullshit.

I miss the old anti-vaxx thread. This one's become so boring and predictable, anti-vaxxers deny they're anti-vaxxers, eventually the (virtual) mask slips, they spam with Twitter junk, run away, reincarnate perhaps, repeat, repeat.

But, hey, where'd we be without the humour they're currently providing? Like this: looking for the bluetooth signals in cemeteries to see if the deceased were vaccinated! Chips give off bluetooth, doncha' know?

And we find them in abundance in their natural habitat; on conspiracy theory forums

There's no such thing as "pro-vaxxer", it's a term invented by people who have a completely irrational view to validate their tribalism. Likewise "flat-earthers" have invented a term for people who believe the world is round - aka everyone

You are simply taking the "I'm just concerned about vaccines" approach in order to try and separate yourself from the full-on loons. Problem is you rely on a lot of the same faulty talking points.

The term is use is 'The majority'

Still no such thing as a "pro vaxxer."

You guys are all anti vaxxers though.

How come you're ignoring all of the claims made by your anti vaxxer buddies?

FYI @snowcat. Before you leap onto supporting this chap because he's on your side, he believes that all space flight is faked and he is possibly a flat earther.

Gosh it sure looks like a lot of the folks agreeing with you hold some really embarrassing views. Weird that...

It's true though. Ask him yourself if you doubt.

Likewise you've been constantly ignoring the lies and dishonesty pumped out by "people just concerned about the vaccine".

Why are you hit by such selective mutism when you see this? Is it because you believe there aren't any examples?

Still no such animal as an "extreme pro vaxxer" though. No matter how much you keep telling yourself that.