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WWE Raw Superthread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    The worse thing about the 6 man match on Sunday is knowing that it's the type of match that's thrown together on Raw or Smackdown. Like when all 6 were in the ring last night, they would usually cut to a break and come back with a 6 man underway. Or else like the women, it just makes a kinda sense to have the 6 person match.

    As much as I enjoy the 24/7 bits (Dana heel turn) remember Nikki was recently women's champion? But looks like she and Dudrop are becoming a team with Nikki dropping the ASH gimmick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Maybe my prediction of Finn leaving was a little premature

    So who's beating the unstoppable Veer Mahann ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,348 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    First time I've watched Raw in maybe a year? What the hell have they done to Seth Rollins?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,862 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    *Completely unsubstantiated rumor that I made up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    That's Seth Freakin' Rollins.

    But yeah I tend to skip through his stuff now as it's usually the same thing every week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Yeah it's such a non-entity of a main event. There are just zero stakes involved. It'd be worthy of a kick-off show, or early card warmup match, but that's about all really. Now, it could suddenly get interesting if they were to make it for all the marbles - winning tag team gets the unified tag belts, while the 'big boss' gets the unified championship belts. But I'm sure that won't happen and it'll just be for pride, continuing the tag belt story for another month, and setting up a Roman Drew fight.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Roman working hurt is the only explanation I can think of for adding him and Drew to the match. It's killed the build for the PPV completely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah and wanted to add Roman somewhere to drive ticket sales maybe? Though how many fans would want to lose a title match where there's guaranteed to be a title change (barring any shenanigans)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭sunbabe08


    Believe me, when I say this, I was in London on Friday night in the o2 and roman reigns is far from hurt. Both himself and drew went 40 minutes back and forth. So nope roman is not hurt. and I have friends in the states who have witnessed this match at a house show 2 weeks ago and they said the same thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    another DQ win for Cody with Rollins yet again interfering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,862 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    The only remotely interesting thing on that show was the wish.com wardlow they had squashed by veer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭TheLocalMan95


    Edge going full in on his sad middle aged perving on young lasses gimmick with the hair now. Grief.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sonya and Lacey on Raw?

    KO and Ezekiel is entertaining



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "Beat the champion to be able to beat the champion? That doesn't make any sense!"

    That was funny.

    Alexa looked incredible.

    I don't mind Edge's hair. Looks better longer but he pulls it off. The benefits of being 6'3 and good looking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    No offence to Alexa, but squashing Sonya like that? I was hoping she brought Lily out just to give her to Adam or throw her away.

    I did wonder about the tattoo beneath Rhea's eye, but seems it's not real since she's changed it.

    So they're called "The Judgment Day" and not just "Judgment Day". How long until they face The New Day? Priest adapting his former name of Punishment.

    Surprised Kevin didn't accompany his brother to the ring.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    The Judgement Day is so stupid in a company that normally can't handle anything more than one name for a superstar 😂

    Nice of Finn and AJ to wait until Liv's beatdown was complete before coming out. Show is lacking direction without a title to focus around, it's better than it has been but still a bit all over the place.

    I hate those championship contender's matches myself, champ shouldn't be losing on a regular basis. Speaking of which it seems we're back to interference/DQ city with Balor/Priest, Theory/Cody and Asuka/Bianca all ending the same way. I get they need to build feuds but all the same way, really?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I'm guessing Bliss won't have the same relationship with a sentient Lilly anymore, but will still carry her because it's a solid merch seller.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Will Liv join Bullet Club tonight against Edge's Judgement Brood



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Why pull Nikki and Doudrop from the main event? Hardly fair to punish them. I guess it's to do with having to put it together quickly and easier for 2 familiar opponents to work together rather than 4.

    Skipped quickly through the Lacey bit as seemed to be all "America and armed forces are great!"



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Not usually interested in viewer numbers but wonder if the number increases or decreases for the Cody segments since their times are advertised for some reason. Wasn't it last week when they had the time and this week had a countdown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Cody Rhodes is advertised for a match tonight against The Miz



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Will they have a countdown again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    And they did.

    Was that pin on Asuka one of the worst ever? She had managed to get herself up and into the ring okay but then just lay there with very little pressure being applied and both shoulders free. Such a weak pin, which did not make Asuka look good.

    After hearing Priest talking, I was just thinking their new entrance music should be...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Shinsuke Nakamura and Riddle face The Usos tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Place is hoping for this weeks episode anyway

    The segment with Cody and Rollins was good with some digs at 'AEW' and the usual 'we want more' brawl with officials out to try separate them

    Riddle/Nakamura vs the Usos was decent

    Contact signing for Lashley vs Omas/MVP ended as per usual with a brawl with Bobby looking strong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Becky with another little AEW nod too; "I'm a wizard".



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Tbh the Cody/Seth segment should have closed the show, it was decent. I've no interest in the Lashley/Omos stuff so maybe that's just me though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Fatal 4 Way to determine a new contender for Bianca tonight. Rhea VS Alexa VS Liv VS Doudrop. Hoping for Rhea and Judgement Day feud with Bianca and possibly the Street Profits.

    Judgement Day also supposed to be adding a new member tonight. I reckon it might be Ciampa as he was mooted before but Finn would be cool.

    Then we have Cody opening the show to address his injury. Should be a monster pop for him I expect. Will catch it tomorrow as I'm working early in the am.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Only tuned in now, rey saving Dom against Veer

    New member of JD, who knows probably a let down if not Finn

    So Cena is back to save the day




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yess I like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I never expected that but it freshens up Finn and potential feuds with Lashley, Styles or Edge

    Cena returning for Theory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Cena passing the torch moment

    Yep nice to see a heel finn on the main roster. Will this lead to an Edge/Styles tag team?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,862 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    5,000 euro to anyone who can explain that judgement day thing to me, because it makes zero sense, when the commentators are **** on it you know it's bad.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Basically with Cody gone they want Edge back as a babyface as there's a huge gap on the Raw roster. So they did a whole switcheroo in one night that was probably planned as a semi slow burner for the next few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,862 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Right, except riddles next in line and then Drew's called dibs in Wales, which means you don't need anybody in the Cody slot till September.


    So we have

    Priest and Ripley abandoning the person who won the 6 man for the person who got pinned.


    Rhea Ripley screaming about edge controlling her when I'm fairly sure she's won every match since she joined him.

    Balor apparently convincing them that him as leader made sense after they spent weeks bashing him.

    All while the commentators talked about how it made no sense.


    Pure and utter garbage.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,237 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    so very very very very stupid. They had a great thing going with TJD. Unless Edge also has an injury we don't know about, this is such an idiotic move.

    WWE, eh?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I can only comment on this as someone who watches clips on Yotutube, but I feel that Baylor looks a way better fit for the group, at least on a superficial level. Baylor, Priest and Rhea look way more like a collective than they did with Edge in that spot. Edge, from what I’ve seen, looked a little too much like he was rehashing some stuff from the past, and given his age and legend status, a heel Edge wasn’t very appealing to me.


    Balor as a heel with those two, however, looks way more appealing. Priest and Rhea physically look more intimidating when working with a guy Balor’s size too. And Finn probably needs a group way more than edge does.



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭TheLocalMan95


    Yeah Baylor may be a better fit, hopefully they sign him and he can join.


    Balor on the other hand is an awful fit, Unless they change the gimmick to something more BC related.



  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭TheLocalMan95




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I like that Balor is the leader of the New Judgement Day.

    It’d be good to have a 2022 version of the job squad.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭daithi1989


    “WWE is so predictable..”

    WWE does a swerve..

    “Ugh, typical WWE”..


    Some people are never happy! Cody going leaves a massive Face on Raw needing filling, and where Lashley and Riddle have been mentioned, they still needed to fill the Cody one, and Edge makes more sense considering his HOF status!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'd imagine this was going to be the end result anyways which would have made more sense played out over a bit longer and culminating possibly in a Balor/Edge match at SummerSlam. Which may have to be fast forwarded to MITB now because of Cody's injury.

    But bright side is heel Balor on the main roster which means the collar flicking smiley eejit Balor can be chucked in the bin.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Yeah it's interesting in the short term and makes everyone a bit more relevant, but it makes absolutely no sense. If they'd just booked the ppv match a little differently it could have worked.. but they didnt. It's basically just a Russo swerve



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Orton out legit injured or kayfabe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Sad to say but I guess the company doesn't hold Tozawa in any high regard.

    I don't remember the undertaker, Hulk hogan, Steve Austin, the rock, bret hart etc loosing to a woman on raw.

    Also the dreaded school boy. Its put more people away than any finish lol.



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