The annual Teachers threaten to strike thread

Wow let's keep things civil shall we? I must have touched a nerve, when you are losing an argument, deflect and attack the poster - your reading comprehension is quite poor nowhere did I say that I'm ignoring the benefit of my pension, I said it is a deferred benefit just like your pension is the only difference is mine is compulsory I have no choice but to pay it. I will see no benefit for 30 years. I'm happy to pay but it's not as I've repeatedly said the pension it was since the 2013 changes. The figures I quoted are accurate.

I am blissfully aware of the benefits I have in my job and the pension and holidays are part of those benefits. But i wouldnt last a year in my job if i was in it solely for the holidays and the pension. Private sector jobs also have benefits like healthcare cover worth thousands and bonus payments. Im not complaing on the internet about other peoples jobs. I was fully aware of my job conditions when I applied for my job. In fact its public knowledge anyone can apply. As a matter of interest what do you work at?

Do we need to have those emotive discussions about every aspect of public sector expenditure, every PUP scheme, every Covid expense, every welfare payment, every grant to businesses, and more? Or just about teachers' salaries?

You're not a spokesperson for 'a lot of people'.

The disaffected boardsies are not exactly mainstream political opinion.

Radio presenters and journalists know how clickbait works.

You don't speak for anyone other than yourself.

It's an opinion, not an observation.

You're not still thinking that boards.ie is representative of the real world, surely?

You obviously didn't pay attention in statistics class.

Are teachers looking for a higher payrise than others in the public or private sectors?

It seems like a clickbait question, one of those 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' questions where the answerer is screwed regardless of what answer they give.

Unless teachers are out there arguing to get higher raises than others, then it is a makey-uppey question.

The discussion is about a threat to strike that never happened.

Where specifically did they look for a 'higher pay rise than others'?

So no threat then, good to know that we've cleared up that exaggeration in the thread.

But again, the question I was asked was specifically about teachers wanting a higher pay rise than others. So it is not unreasonable for me to ask - where did teachers look for a higher pay rise than others, or can we agree that it is just another of the many exaggerations on this thread?

We are just looking for your own opinion @AndrewJRenko … what do you think? No need to complicate the question … it’s a simple yes/no … what is your own opinion? I assume you do have one??

Are teachers worth a higher payrise than others in the public or private sectors?

I think we can implicitly take that you think teachers deserve a higher pay rise (your refusal to say it speaks volumes that you clearly don't want to say directly).

So then the question becomes, why should the teachers be treated differently to the rest of the public service?

A further question might be why they threaten to strike on a regular basis vs. other professions and then regularly not strike even when no demands (e.g. they didn't get to skip the vaccination queue) were met, what is it about the profession that has them, effectively, crying wolf so often.

I would posit that their frequent demand to be treated differently has put them on ignore with the public and that their frequent strike threats are no longer taken seriously by anyone which has, again effectively, rendered the teachers unions impotent in negotiations and in fact a government can get an easy win by ignoring their demands into the future, even if they actually do strike.