F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

Yeah all that. And the Mercedes rear wing complaints. All that stuff. Claiming that any team is "above" that kind of stuff, is silly.

Do you think it's a good thing that this is how it's regulated or do you think it should be done proactively by the FIA?

I think it should ideally be done proactively by the FIA but the shithousery between teams makes for good entertainment.

Now that Merc's era of dominance is over, it's a good chance to reflect on what they actually achieved over the last 8 years. I was no Hamilton fan, and cheered for Rosberg each year they raced, and was delighted Max won, but I think what Merc did is probably unrepeatable. The other teams have gotten ahead of them with the new regs, and the FIA will probably change the regs more often to prevent another long run of dominance.

Yeah the regulations will never be written in that way again, introducing an extremely complex engine formula under political pressure from Mercedes to ensure they had a multi year head start as they’d already been developing the engine, then introducing a series of crazy barriers like token systems and testing limits to stop anyone else catching up, then marrying that to an unprecedented period of rule stability where they could just continue to carry their massive advantage over from one season to the next for 8 years with nothing more than gradual car evolution.

After that lost decade for F1, with 2022 we’re finally seeing the return of what the sport used to look like, with a blank sheet and every team developing from scratch on equal terms to see who’s best, and already another big change on the horizon in a couple of years which is creating interest for potential new entrants like Porsche and Audi who were locked out by the barriers to entry that came with the hybrid formula since 2014.

Under these kind of conditions nobody is ever going to dominate for years in end, without some kind of one in a billion talent like Michael Schumacher behind the wheel, which is the only time we’ve ever seen sustained dominance previously.

Spicy engine, I think it was used for 2 races and they had it in quali party mode all the way through Brazil knowing it was going in the bin after Abu Dhabi

I don't think it was banned they just couldn't flip flop engine modes after quali.

Yeah he used the “spicy” one in Brazil and AD, the other races in that run were the older one.

Red Bull propaganda machine in full working order I see. Your posts are a joke, you come across as someone who never watched a race before 2018 but saw some highlight packages those dastardly pro Lewis Hamilton Sky commentators put together for you.

I would have agreed re customer team never beating works team but taking this season, McLaren are highly likely to beat Mercedes and where Mercedes currently are, they can do little about it.

If McLaren had come with a better car this year' we could have had the situation of customer team winning title. That really would have been beautiful to see. Wolff would have trouble defending that.

Merc last year basically exploited the rubbish rules around engine penalties. Coming to the end of the season, getting a 5 place grid penalty for highly tuned new engine isn’t a penalty at all.

I know it was brought in to stop Honda having to serve a ridiculous amount of penalties but surely it’s worth revisiting now. If a car is supposed to be able to get through the season on 3 engines then any engine after that should get a stiffer penalty.

As I remember it, Lewis had awful trouble getting tyre temperatures up in Bahrain.

To be honest, Mercedes-Benz deserve as much forum discussion as Alpha Tauri or what Ferrari got last year.

But was still 5th on the grid. Russell I think said that they need certain circumstances to go their way to get tyres in the right window