F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

Charlie-Bravo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118937218#Comment_118937218

Monaco would be a blast so!

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938190#Comment_118938190

What do you mean?

I think Monaco is a lost cause and should be cut. Even the fastest at the back and slowest at the front probably couldn't make Monaco a blast. Might get a few more overtakes though, so that would be an improvement.

Charlie-Bravo

Sorry, I forgot to put on the sarcasm tags! :D

nf2k

I like the sprint races. I agree that Monaco races are boring but would be reluctant to lose it. Chain bear did a video on potential options. They could change the track but it's pretty iconic, it would be a shame to change it.

Monaco qualifying is usually exciting though, so maybe it should be a time trial-based event. An extended quali shootout would get my vote.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/formularacers_/status/1517051734576832512?t=MUXecWyUZLsJuHm9vTZ_8Q&s=19

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118954928#Comment_118954928

Happy for him. Seems like a really likeable guy and is settling into a great no.2 role at Ferrari this season. I'd love to see him do a Rosberg at some point, but it appears that Leclerc has the pace on him this year at least.

muckwarrior

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118955400#Comment_118955400

Probably a good comparison. LeClerc is clearly faster, but Sainz is close. A little bit of luck and he can probably beat him one in every 3 or 4 seasons.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118956570#Comment_118956570

And I would support him but I don't begrudge Leclerc's success either. They could both be privileged, entitled knobs, but they both seem like decent guys.

I don't tend to support any teams but both Ferrari drivers are likeable and fast. Both battle hard without being stupidly aggressive and they're not whingers.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118956813#Comment_118956813

Except Schumacher regarding your last point

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118956860#Comment_118956860

I'm just talking about both drivers they have right now. Schumacher was great but not likeable. I never saw the appeal in Kimi either. He just seemed rude as far as I can see. Vettel is a likeable guy though.

dulpit

Leclerc could be the first champion who's likeable in quite a while. Vettel was a knob when he was with Red Bull, Hamilton is Hamilton. I wasn't really keeping tabs when Nico won, what was he like as a driver?

Probably something about needing to be selfish to be a winner or something..

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118957029#Comment_118957029

Things got a bit undignified between Hamilton and Rosberg. But i don't necessarily hold that against them. They could have handled it better but intra-team fighting for the championship is total war. Nico was alright. Didn't seem like a bad guy. Doubt he was the most likeable but not a bad guy.

Things are very respectful between Max and Charles at the moment. But if they get into a close championship battle, then I expect sparks to fly. Might not happen if Charles runs away with the championship though.

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118957101#Comment_118957101

Haha was thinking the same about Nico… it’s not hard to look like the good guy when you spend the height of your career with either Lewis or Schuey as your teammate lol

Harika

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118956946#Comment_118956946

Vettel became likeable after Redbull where he was treated like a spoilt brat and behaved accordingly. The red bull Vettel would not clean up after a grand Prix.

Ad sainz and Leclerc. You won't get championship by being nice. Give them time to be unliked

El_Duderino 09

Yeah Vettel was a dick at times at red bull. He's got his 4 championships and he knows he's not good enough to win another championship, so he has very little to prove. He's not anywhere near his top form, but his teammate is so poor he was probably the only driver who was sad to see Mazepin lose his seat. But lucky for Stroll, Latifi has stepped up to take the role of worst driver.

Leclerc might win the championship so clearly that it doesn't become a close fight with Max or Sainz. If that happens, the claws might never come out and he could maintain the nice guy image. I'll be surprised if Leclerc or Sainz prove themselves not to be good guys in general though. Nobody accuses Max of being a nice guy, but he doesn't try to appear a nice guy so there's an authenticity to him.

AMKC

So just came across this today,

https://youtu.be/taL-43Ll3_E

I wonder how many in here heard of Alessandro Nannini. I for one did not even know about him untill today. Seems he could have had a good career except for an unfortunate accident. So Robert Kubica was not the first or even last to be so unfortunate but I think he was the only one to try and come back to F1 after such an unfortunate accident but we all know how that went and what could have been for Robert had he not been in that crash well its kinda the same with Alessandro Nannini except his was way worse and at a time when medical technics and medicine was not as advanced.

mickdw

That clip gives a more realistic impression of what it's like to drive a single seater than any of today's fancy cameras.

Zaph

And listen to the engine, sounds glorious compared to today's yokes.

Nannini was a decent driver, I remember him winning the Japanese GP after Senna was disqualified. I think he drove touring cars for a while after his accident, but a return to F1 was impossible. Shame for him, apparently Ferrari were looking at possibly signing him.

AMKC

Anyone see the new F1 race track on the RTE 1 news at Rossport?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118961449#Comment_118961449

Yes he went into touring cars then. There is a small article about him on the Autocar website under the Formula e thread they have.

H3llR4iser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118960188#Comment_118960188

Nannini was a beast of a driver in 1989/1990, up there with the absolute best in terms of raw speed. He often dragged that wimpy V8 to places it didn't belong (the chassis was a different story, it was widespread opinion back then that Benetton were amongst the best aerodynamically - the classic say was "put an engine on that car!").

It's a shame that his only win came at Suzuka 1989, which means pretty much nobody remembers it. The accident cut his F1 career short, who knows what he could've achieved; In a way, his misfortune paved the way for Benetton to be able to poach Schumacher from Jordan the next year, since they had the ever-expendable super-sub in the car, none other than the...legendary...Roberto Moreno.

Nannini went on to have a successful touring car career with Alfa Romeo driving the 155, albeit usually overshadowed by teammate Nicola Larini.

He was famously the protagonist of a "tale from a bygone era of racing" - Season 1994, Singen, Race 2 - while the drivers' championship was pretty much a Mercedes affair between Ludwig and van Ommen, Alfa Romeo where fully into the hunt for the constructors' title - which in DTM pretty much counted more than the drivers'. The track favoured AWD cars and, as if it wasn't enough, it was raining; The AWD Alfa 155s had dominated Race 1, but Nannini made a mistake and was starting from behind. He was tearing through the field until he reached Roland Asch, who pretty much attempted to punt him into the wall while Sandro attempted the overtake. A few laps later, Asch pretty much "forgot to brake" from a couple of car lengths behind and torpedoed Sandro's Alfa. He spun and was already out of the car, when...he just jumped back in, restarted and got to the pits sliding around the track like a possessed madman fighting off a demonic bull. He got new tires, got some broken parts ripped off of the car and rejoined. It seemed like a futile effort as he was now lapped.

The reason came clear a few moments later - when he managed to find Roland Asch's Mercedes on track. At the same hairpin, this time it was Sandro who not only forgot to brake - he kept his right foot firmly planted on the accelerator, ploughing into the Merc's rear end. Asch did manage to continue, while Nannini mangled pretty much everything in the front end of his 155. However, the picture of Sandro casually walking away from the burning wreck of his car would have made for the most epic meme of all times had these been invented back in 1994.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4xRdPtRtwg

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118961546#Comment_118961546

What's this?

Burkie1203

Merc, Aston Martin, Alpine and McLaren apparently want the Ferrari/Haas relationship investigated

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963375#Comment_118963375

What can they conclude? Thst allowed Haas to base some for their design INSIDE the Ferrari factory and they share a wind tunnel. If they're allowed to do thst much, then how could they possibly police them sharing ideas informally over a cuppa in the canteen? Nothing tangible needs to be exchanged, just ideas. Its inevitable.

Can't blame the Merc and friends for complaing but it's probabky more about disruption to Ferrari than actually expecting anything to come of it.

flazio

Mercedes-Benz and Aston Martin. Hah, that's rich.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963682#Comment_118963682

Pot, meet the kettle.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963682#Comment_118963682

And McLaren of course, the original Ferrari photo-copiers.

It's just Mercedes resorting to their usual tactics of playing dirty political games off track when they can't win fairly, and getting their customer team lackeys to join the pile in.

Hard to see anything happening as there's no real evidence that anything about Haas is not legitimate. Their car doesn't even look particularly similar to the Ferrari. It is kind of ironic that Red Bull are the team with by far the most to gain from Ferrari being taken down a peg by this sort of scheming, but they're above getting involved in it.

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963751#Comment_118963751

Red bull can't say anything though what with their relationship with alpha tauri.

The politics of the sport would do your head in sometimes...

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963751#Comment_118963751

Red bull aren't above getting involved in this kind of shenanigans. They haven't gotten involved in this particular case as yet, but they're well capable of acting the maggot.

Maybe Red Bull doesn't want too much clarification of what information can and can't be shared between teams given the close relationship between their 2 teams.

Williams is missing from the Mercedes and Friends group. Surprised if they're not encouraged to join.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118963959#Comment_118963959

That's exactly why Red Bull aren't getting involved. Nothing to do with them being 'above' anything whatsoever.

Don't get involved then the focus can't change to what you're doing with your two teams.