Does your club charge members admin fees for casual rounds?

play casual rounds very rarely

wouldnt be paying for it either. i jus wouldnt enter a score if they wanted money

Because I cant edit the post, I will just quote the whole post. With regard to admin, I just gather up all the cards that were submitted for casual rounds once a week, check to make sure they were added in correctly and try to see if I can see people who didnt submit a card. it takes me about an hour in the evening but I'd be fairly handy on computers. Maybe for other handicap committees with people playing several hundreds or thousands of casual rounds in a week it would take longer. I would wager on average we have about 100 casual rounds played each week, so probably not a lot. I certainly won't be asking our members to pay money for my time. I feel like its just a part of the job that I signed up for

You can. But when the score is submitted, it appears on the handicap login app for the club through clubireland, so if they want to charge you they can look through that. They are certainly creating more admin work for themselves doing it this way

not my department. That's what the competitions committee does. I'm on the handicap side of things so I'm only interested in the casual cards

Maybe I'm too proactive on the handicap side of things but I feel if you're going to do a job, i might aswell try to do it right.

If there is Golfer of the Year points on offer for the top 20 for example you should be checking those cards too.

Fair point but that’s probably only the top 10 in about 10 comps a year so not excessive.

I'm the comp sec in our club and we only ask players to submit their score via our app and not return the cards. This has been the way since Covid kicked off and seems to be working well for us. Obviously during the pandemic handling cards of others poses it's own risk. Personally I'm delighted as it cuts out lots of time spent checking cards. Our captains is this weekend with a 9 hole play off Sunday evening so there would have been lots of pressure to check cards in a short window to ensure all was right. I think the app based way of returning is definitely the way forward in my opinion, it is 2021 after all. Golf is a game of integrity, we trust all play by the rules on the course so we have to trust all will submit a score honestly. Obviously players are asked to double check and have their marker double check prior to submission of the score. Any discrepancies should be noticed at that point and rectified.

No talk of it at all in my home club, but we're still fairly jammed on comp days and haven't seen any drop off in fees coming in I'd imagine.

Maybe your membership has seen a large drop off in people entering comps?

No mention of the reason. Sundays are as busy as ever for the competition day so revenue cant be dramatically lower than previously.

I always made sure to declare the casual round when playing outside of competition so that my handicap can be as accurate as possible but with €8 per round I certainly wont now.

I think the answer is in your query as I believe most clubs should have an admin fee to discourage casual rounds for handicap purposes and try encourage people to play in club comps, sure isnt that the reason for joining a club

I dont agree with your statement at all.

I am lucky that I can make time on a Sunday to play a round in the competition but there are many people who are unable to play in competition on a Sunday due to work/family commitments. Would you prefer that this cohort of members are discouraged from playing casual rounds for handicap purposes and as such continue to play from inaccurate handicaps, solely because they can not make the time for a Sunday comp? And no, I didn't join a club solely to play club competitions - I joined so that I can play golf whenever I want and at whatever time I want.

My club has a rule, or had last year anyway, that you can't enter casual rounds on the same day there's a competition. I think that's reasonable enough - I've never actually entered a casual round as I enter lots of comps so I don't know the ins and outs of it - e.g. if you only have time for 9 holes, can you enter 9 hole casual on the same day as a comp. I also don't know how strictly it has been followed

Yea that is a good idea, but some clubs run comps over multiple days. We run Friday-Sunday, so if i enter comp Friday i cant do a casual on Sunday. I would be interested to know the ins and outs of this as Casual rounds are switched off in my club to encourage people to enter comps as they think casual rounds are affecting competition entry, which is not backed up by any data.