The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

eagle eye · 05-04-2022 10:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884055#Comment_118884055

I'm not sold on anybody in this class. I think Kenny Pickett is the best on the board. He's a football player and last season he was phenomenal. He could be great but I'm not confident enough to go all in on him.

I like Carson Strong too although there are question marks over his knee which gave him trouble in high school and again in college. He might have the best arm in the class.

I'm not at all a fan of Malik Willis who appears to be top of most QB draft boards. I'd liken him to Jalen Hurts.

Desmond Ridder isn't somebody I'd want. I can see him throwing a lot of picks

Matt Corral looked good in college but I don't think his skills transfer successfully to the NFL.

06-04-2022 08:39AM

I like Sam Howell a lot to be honest. Seems to have gone very under the radar recently

eagle eye · 06-04-2022 10:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118887456#Comment_118887456

I can see lots of strip fumbles and sacks if he makes into onto an NFL field. He pulls the ball back behind himself before he throws, that's a huge problem in the pros, and he gets sacked a lot by not getting rid of the ball when things break down.

Another thing is how long he stares at his target which gives the safety time to get there and potentially intercept.

06-04-2022 01:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118888063#Comment_118888063

I think k the staredown was more this year than last because he had **** all to work with in that offence. Bar maby pickets and corral every qb in this draft needs to work on mechanics

Foxtrol · 06-04-2022 03:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884055#Comment_118884055

https://youtu.be/XZUoCpx8jag

I swore off getting involved in those discussions with that poster for the good of everyone.

None of the QBs are worth a first round pick this year - all are so flawed that it is a complete crapshoot on who will be successful. If you have to take one you go for the guy with the most upside - which is Willis.

If you have to spend $100 on a lottery ticket you want the prize to potentially be $1,000,000, not a potential win of $90 like most of the other QBs in this draft. In this case I'd just save the $100 and not pick one this year.

Ohmeha · 06-04-2022 10:41PM

After the deluge of 5 QBs taken in the top 15 in 2021 some mock drafts have not even one QB going in this year's 1st round

Some team/s will inevitably lose their heads on draft day at take a questionable QB way too high in the 1st like Giants taking Jones at 6 in 2019, Packers taking Love at 26 in 2020. Will it be Panthers/Seahawks/Falcons this year? Surely Lions won't take a QB at 2 but they have to be surefire to use the 32 pick on a QB for the 5 year rookie deal or trade up a few spots from there if there is a run on QBs in the 1st

eagle eye · 09-04-2022 03:05PM

I'm in shock. RIP Dwayne Haskins. 25 years old. Hit by a car.

Xavi6 · 09-04-2022 03:35PM

Yeah, that’s terribly tragic. He had his problems after being talked up coming out of college but he was going to get another crack at it in Pittsburgh this year.

The_Honeybadger · 09-04-2022 04:53PM

Awful news, condolences to his family

Mysterypunter · 09-04-2022 08:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118903267#Comment_118903267

Worse again a dump truck, very sad news, RIP

el Fenomeno · 09-04-2022 09:09PM

Schefter has really shown himself up to a slimy prick (again) in his reporting of the above news.

Mysterypunter · 09-04-2022 09:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904724#Comment_118904724

That’s the insider fella? What makes him an insider exactly? Tactless in a lot of situations for sure, not unusual for a journalist, a lot of lowlifes in that industry, most of them paint themselves as some crusaders for truth

Itssoeasy · 09-04-2022 10:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904724#Comment_118904724

This is twice at least he not engaged his **** Brain before reporting something. He’s imo rightly getting ripped for it on twitter and most other NFL players and reporters are doing the basic but respectful tweet.

The_Honeybadger · 09-04-2022 10:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118904724#Comment_118904724

Not as badly as Gil Brandt who made some utterly bizarre and insensitive comments about Dwayne Haskins in the aftermath. This is actually unbelievable how anybody could come out with this immediately after his death, or ever

https://twitter.com/petedamilatis/status/1512835278653767684?s=21

Itssoeasy · 20-04-2022 05:00PM

Deebo Samuel has told Jeff Darlington that he’s requested a trade from the 49ers.

Foxtrol · 20-04-2022 05:24PM

Felt this was eventually going to come given how the 49ers have approached signing their home developed players - both Kittle & Warner went right up to camp after some very angry exchanges - but this issue with Deebo seems sounds like he isn't happy with the 'Wide Back' role he played this year, probably worried about long term health, and/or came in expecting to be the highest paid WR (even post Hill & Adams). I am all about players getting paid but not a huge fan of how he has gone about it, especially compared to Metcalf who wants a contract and lost his star QB but has been quiet enough and still showed up to voluntary camp.

I'd hesitate to make Deebo the highest paid WR due to his comparably small sample size and injury history but would have been fine if the team did it, with the cap exploding and hopefully having Jimmy off the books before the season starts (49ers would have the 2nd most cap space in the league if he was cut/traded right now).

If both sides can't sort this out I'd expect a similar or better return than Adams/Hill trades. Though the concerns above are still valid, Deebo is considerably younger than those other two players so has much more long term value and in addition the 49ers have much more leverage - Deebo only due less than $5m this coming year so not a burden if he holds out/in.

He is one of the best weapons in the league so obviously a step down for the 49ers though my point regarding the impact of the loss of Hill to the Chiefs isn't quite the same for the 49ers as the change in QB style with Lance coming in will likely mean that the team will be shifting approach away from what made Deebo such a star last season so the team is likely selling at his highest point.

eagle eye · 21-04-2022 01:35AM

I'd break the bank to get Deebo, he's just ridiculous.

cosatron · 21-04-2022 02:12PM

what would it take to get Deebo, would a first and second round pick get him?

adrian522 · 21-04-2022 02:41PM

I guess it depends, I feel the 49ers really want to keep him and will resist trading him as much as possible. I'd guess a first and second could be good compensation if they were talking about top 10-15 in each round.

The other team would also need to be paying him $25-30m per year on a new deal.

More likely the 49ers will sit tight until after the draft and hope he comes back to the negotiating table, and the 49ers will hope at least he will play out the last year of his deal if they can't come to an agreement.

I don't see him sitting out an entire year, I also don't see the 49ers paying him what Adams or Hill got.

Once the draft passes the chances of a trade drastically reduce as you would only be trading for 2023 draft picks and they can do that next off season if they like.

The Athletic did a list of possible offers and came up with this(I don't see the 49ers biting on any of these):

Green Bay: - Nos. 22 and 53 in the 2022 draft.

Texans - Nos. 13 and 108 in the 2022 draft for Samuel and No. 134.

Chiefs: - The 30th and 94th picks in the 2022 draft.

Jets - The offer will likely be similar to the one in place for Tyreek Hill — two 2022 second-round picks (Nos. 35 and 38) and a third-rounder (No. 69).

Eagles - No. 18 and the first of two third-round picks (No. 84) in 2022, and a 2024 third-round pick to round things out.

eagle eye · 21-04-2022 06:58PM

I'm not sure you'd even need that much. Samuel has one year left on his contract.

I'm thinking, and I hate it as a Patriots fan, that the Jets could be the landing spot for him if he's traded. They have the draft capital, the cap room to give him a great contract and then there's the former 49er coaches there.

I think the Jets could get him for their two early second rounders.

ELM327 · 22-04-2022 10:25AM

Just rewatching the first round of the 2017 draft and how crazy is it that Deshaun Watson was selected with the browns first round pick (albeit via trade to the texans) and then a mere 5 years later he's traded to the browns for 3 further first round picks. In total - including the draft trade and the recent trade - that's 5 first round picks that teams have spent to get him. More than the years (4) that's had as active in the year.

Shedite27 · 22-04-2022 01:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118960155#Comment_118960155

You're rewatching a draft?

Foxtrol · 22-04-2022 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118956960#Comment_118956960

Agree that 49ers wouldn't and shouldn't accept any of those deals, especially not those deals from GB & Chiefs (not even getting into them likely being SB competition and would want a premium, not a discount that the above look like).

49ers hold nearly all the leverage here so a trade needs to wow them to move on at this point, when there are months to smooth out the relationship before training camp and 49ers have him for a year on the cheap and can then tag him. The last two 49ers players to hand in trade requests with this front office got deals done afterwards and played multiple years with the team - still think this is the most likely to happen.

If a team wants Deebo they're going to have to make an offer they can't turn down - an Adam or Hill type deal is the floor. If a move happens I'd guess it might be on draft night so both teams know who they're getting/giving up with the first round pick

Shedite27 · 22-04-2022 07:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118961385#Comment_118961385

Wonder would Carolina work, send Deebo and Jimmy G in exchange for their 6 and something.

9ers get to draft their WR of choice

ArmaniJeanss · 10-05-2022 02:43PM

Tom Brady to become Fox Sports Lead Analyst when he retires, calling games with Kevin Burkhart ($20M per year has been mentioned elsewhere).

Tom Brady to join Fox Sports as lead NFL analyst upon retirement

It's kinda strange, as the people who are currently the number 1 team now know they are placeholders. And there's no guarantee that Brady will be a natural behind the mic. I wonder could it happen as soon as the coming seasons playoffs if Tampa Bay are eliminated early.

eagle eye · 11-05-2022 11:02AM

I note you say 'when' he retires, so this might not happen for quite a while.

paulie21 · 12-05-2022 08:43PM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1524850548113129474?t=T1wqSLciPER0ihURyCjubw&s=19

Actually been quite on the off season arrests

Ohmeha · 12-05-2022 09:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119041631#Comment_119041631

Fox have the next superbowl too so if the Bucs don't make it playoffs or go far then Brady will surely have heavy involvement in Fox's coverage with that salary. Greg Olsen is strongly tipped as main contender for the placeholder role with Burkhardt, there is a boom in salaries for these guys this offseason so it's a big opportunity for whoever even if it's for a year

I'm hopeful Brady will be great, alot less filter on the mic and the insight into GOAT football brain/experience can only be intriguing. Whether he's natural or charismatic on the mic it's hard to know, not many thought Romo would be a natural but then Brees hasn't taken to it naturally yet on NBC even though it's a bit part role for him so far

Blut2 · 13-05-2022 11:58AM

Romo is fantastic, he provides so much high level insight while still breaking it down to an accessible level. While being charismatic/entertaining at the same time. I always look forward to watching games on CBS with him, its much better than any other network's coverage team.

If Brady can do the same for the Fox coverage it'll be great. Hes obviously got the football brain, but it'll just depend on him being able to explain things well enough and be entertaining at the same time.

Christy42 · 13-05-2022 12:40PM

Chargers social media team is on a different level for the schedule release. Packing in a hoard of references into a quick 2 min video. I guess we will see if they manage to get results on the field as well.

https://twitter.com/chargers/status/1524902549353951232?s=20&t=8gFE8EBaeaF0xhEvQFLItA

The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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