Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

What article are you referring too exactly, also its not a Home Owner who applies for HAP, it the person renting it . You seem to be referring to a statement made by the Red Cross and the last time I checked, they don't dictate legislation in Ireland .

I'm not doubting something will come in but pledges were NOT made on the basis of rental income, indeed they were made on the basis of FREE & Temporary accommodation.

As it stands, HAP in its current form would be near impossible to get for a legally defined refugee but as I've also said ,,legislation can be changed and like many other things that have happened, all its seems is the stroke of a pen is required 🙄

You’d have to commend the people the signed up to take strangers in with little or no English into there house for free. It would be a huge cost to house these people and it’s a great gesture from some great people.

My only gripe is that it’s getting the Gov out of a hole that they got themselves into again by playing the good boys of Europe. These useless politicians should be forced to solved this problem before promising to house 200k people while we’re in a housing crisis.  This might be the only way they’ll build houses, just to save face in front of the big boys of Europe

I'm inclined to agree. It is sad to see people sniping away, probably motivated out of self interest & jealousy. It's almost as if they'd prefer if the Russians just steamrollered Ukraine and absorbed it, to protect their own situation.

These are war refugees and they fully deserve our compassion and help, even if it hits us in our pockets, as it will. I'm sure some may wish to stay here permanently and that can be dealt with in time, but the majority will surely seek to return to their native country. I certainly would if in their shoes.

They're fleeing from war and you're worried about rabies. ffs. First world problems.

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Nothing definitive and definitely no certainties.

It's exactly the same as government having to scramble to insure peoples SW Payments would not be impacted if they welcome people into their homes. Like the Fair deal properties that can't be used , like it becoming abundantly clear a home already under a rental agreement could not be used and for a host of reason's, like insurance and public liability issues, like a vetting process required that no one initially thought about , it's beggars belief.

Basically cart before the horse approach.

Have you wondered why the Government are now focusing on Hotels as the preferred option 🤔, it's easy , it avoids all the legal and statutory requirements around housing people in private accommodation.

Pledges were all well and good bit utterly impractical.

GOVERNMENT promised the sun, moon and stars and are now offering Travel Lodge style accommodation if your lucky 🙄

It's been announced city west will be used for two years , I'm not referring to any reports, just the announcement. Of course its possible refugees might just stay for a few weeks or months and them get offered one of these magical homes the government seem to be hiding from us 🙄

I guess those already in Direct provision Hotels could throw some light on this, some in their delightful accommodation, 3 to 4 years .

Yes used for two years doesnt mean that anyone will be there for two years . It will used as a temporary accommodation until they can be moved elsewhere .

OK, let's assume it's only temporary and that's a big assumption. Say in a month, 2 months were exactly are these refugees going 🤔, certainly not home , its abundantly clear the pledge concept is falling apart and was never a realistic option. We know there's practically zero housing availability so even being hopelessly ambitious and as Peter Mc Verry said last weekend "There's not a Hope in Hell" all these people can be housed, I don't think it unreasonable to assume they'll end up in Hotels for a minimum of a year and more likely longer.

The Red Cross /government have been slow off the mark on this one unfortunately. This encouraged people to arrange for their own refugees through Facebook. They got in touch with Facebook groups on mainland Europe. The problem I have with this is that the refugees weren't matched with the right families in some cases. This is why some were asked to leave. None of these homes are police vetted because they didn't go through the Red Cross

Very much admire those with the capacity and generosity to take people in, it was a rush situation understandably. They should get some kind of support for doing so, especially in the context of where utility bills are at the present time. Imagine it probably doubling or more from present usage with prices already through the roof. I’d really struggle to pay them alongside everything else. Food is another one

The Irish Red Cross has branches all over the country.

What astonishes me about all this is the fact that while the Government falls over itself promising to take in Ukrainian refugees, we still have an unacceptable number of Irish citizens sleeping in doorways the length and breadth of the country. Where's the political and public will to deal with this? Have all of our existing homeless population suddenly been housed overnight or something? Why wasn't Citywest pressed into action after we started finding homeless people dead in doorways? Of course I'll probably be called a racist now for asking this.

Different issues but you know that already. Homelessness is a seriously complex issue. Also there IS lots of supports available in the form of hostels etc for those in desperate circumstances. But you knew that already too

Governments own figures suggest nearly 10K officially homeless, you seem to be focusing on one element (Rough Sleepers) , you are aware there are rough sleepers all over the country. But this aside there's also an alarming housing list and of course few homes to rent let alone purchase (if you can afford too)

This is the post I was replying to, Thanks for chiming in though. We don't have 10K people sleeping in doorways. If you think we have please back it up.