What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

You're twisting.

He pointed to immigrants as a cause for increased costs along with service reductions in the HSE and other services. Which they are. An increased population places greater demand on the services available, and considering that, even during Ireland's economic boom periods, the HSE along with complimentary services were struggling previously with a smaller population.

Legal Immigrants who are skilled and gainfully employed are not considered a problem by most posters on this thread. There are issues with them due to culture, integration/Assimilation, and problems arising from 2nd/3rd generation migrant families, but that's not the argument being put forward here. The issue with regards to migrants refers to those who avail of services, are illegal, and therefore, can use the services but fail to contribute to the economy for those services to exist. In addition, there are the low skilled migrants who contribute little but still have to be covered by services, especially during the covid period of the last two years.

So.. immigration is part of the problem.. when considering those whose contributions to the State likely fall well short of what they've been receiving... and that Irish people, like those he mentioned, will lose out due to those increased demands on the system.

I doubt very much that ordinary Ukrainians believe Russia invading their country is the best thing that could have happened to them...

less people have died then in shock and awe in Iraq? Well, that's ok then. Sure who cares if a few less people due in an invasion of their country 🙄

Good lord.

Well actually no, they lost cards because they were above the threshold to qualify

Simple

You can try twist that any way you want but there's a threshold, they're above it. Nothing more to it really

Only in your head. In the real world, an assessment was made and a decision was made based on criteria that has existed for years. Soz dude, no conspiracy here, you'll have to keep looking

Ahh well.. I guess I'm tired of the empty platitudes and shallow virtue signalling that tends to come from posters like yourself, and others. Those posters will pump Ukraine up to sainthood, ignoring the rake of negatives that came along with the country, including their previous status when it came to immigration to other countries... which wasn't particularly good comparatively speaking to the rest of that region.

As for the death rates, it's an example. I realise that nuance is rather difficult for both you and Bubbly (no mods, I'm not talking about these two posters, but referring to their posts just prior to this one), but it's not any kind of attempt to downplay the deaths involved, but rather to show how exaggerated Westerners have approached the Ukraine conflict, applying standards that aren't generally applied to other conflicts.... all the while setting the scene for how Europe reacts to a possible (I've heard a variety of estimates) of 20 million refugees coming from Ukraine because of the conflict. 200k to come to Ireland.. wonder where the rest will end up.. considering that other European countries are stating that they'll take in far less than 200k.

I realise that it's sometimes difficult to have a mature and adult conversation on boards.. where people don't seek the worst possible interpretation of what is said, and we are inclined to watch our wording similar to a politician on RTE... but sometimes things should be said regardless. Although, the claim that I don't see them as human beings is a bit much. Care to explain how my statement leads you to such a twisted notion?

Oh.. and I do love that you continue to talk around issues presented. True to form, as always.

It really warms my heart to know that I personally know several folks who are among the 250 who have received their letter of permission over the last few days.

RTE news : 250 undocumented migrants receive approval to stay

The last paragraph of that report is something I hadn't realised but that I'm delighted to see. It looks like the govt are about to actively start looking for immigrants to sign up for permission rather than just wait for them to apply.

But yet you know nothing of how posters feel about other conflicts, or their level of involvement in other conflicts.

It also doesn't matter if there was a lot of corruption in the country, ordinary people are being forced to leave their homes, country if they are lucky, the unluckier ones have a much harder time.

trying to put people down because they have sympathy for others is very weird.