sick of propping up non performing farms

No.

Pay for it directly on the food or pay it indirectly through taxes, either way I'm paying for it.

Doesn't address the point though, in any other industry a business either makes money or it fails, yet in this industry we continue to prop up loss making enterprises. Read the farm forum here and you see lots of lads declaring their intention to keep just enough stock to get the "payments". What sort of warped industry model is that?

Good for ypu now can you u go and sell that idea of paying cost of production to the other 500 million people in EU so farmers can have a fair market to sell into instead of putting your time into trying to start a keyboard warrior war.

The supermarkets are the greatest winners from farm subsidies. Follow the supply chain and see how much the price rises between the farm and the shelf in the supermarkets.

and the way things are set up now the supermarket can't lose. People are entrenched in their habits, local markets have been all but eradicated and there are EU rules to make life awkward for those wishing to bypass the supply chain. Even back in 1995 the local shopkeeper here would ask people if they wanted "gugs" because she wasn't officially allowed to sell them anymore.

Farm subsidies end up in the pockets of Mr. Dunne/Aldi & Lord Tesco so they can buy more self-checkout machines and a new superyacht for themselves

Farmers here are very good at lobbying Government, the construction Industry not so good, I'd even go further and say the Construction Industry has a poor reputation and is goes through too many cycles of boom and bust along with all the price gowging and Tax payer bailouts along with it. I'm still paying USC from the last Banking/Building bailout. It's a hard penal Tax hitting the average Joe for an extra €70/week on average.

But you do have a point that farmers are always moaning about prices and costs etc yet there has been a boom in land prices, New buildings/expansion and new Tractors and Machinery over the last few years. The amount of money some of these farms are on the hook for is staggering. Let's just hope Interest rates don't rise too much or there could be trouble ahead

again, this is one of the main conundrums, increasing prices will more than likely cause inflation, causing an increase in pay, causing.....

its a potential feedback loop, we ve shafted ourselves, with modern economics

People don’t want to “bail out farmers”

but they do want the “Aldi super 6” and “5 meats for 20 quid”.

Any decent construction contract has a clause for inflation price rises.

People keep repeating that as if we don't already know it, and also as if it addresses the actual point at hand, but it doesn't.

I'm paying for this food either way so I have no specific issue with food prices rising in line with a change to the business model. People will pay the market price for anything, whatever that might be.

You have an industry that encourages people to basically have a shell company doing just enough so that it can receive support payments, that is a broken business model. If doing something about it means higher prices at the till then so be it.

You're making the assumption that agriculture is the only sector that is subsidized. It's not.

It's losing money not loosing money good god, we need our farmers though but any help should be done correctly

I find it hard to believe that you actually want a serious discussion when you didn't even bother reading the article that sparked your outrage.