Are there any credible conspiracy theories?

Because it's important to challenge bullshit and misinformation.

While a religious zealot like cheerful will never be convinced because it's become a central part of his personality at this point, others aren't as far gone.

They will see that he's completely unhinged and they see when he's consistently dishonest and evasive. And though they are loathe to admit it, other conspiracy theorists start to see the same failings. And slowly, they start thinking for themselves again.

Also, personally, I find that Dohnjoe's counters to Cheerful's and other bullshit artist's bullshit very informative and entertaining.

He doesn't think any of the buildings were blown up or that 9/11 was an inside job

You are holding up someone who contradicts your beliefs.

You do realise that the CIA does not have any law enforcment function and limited ability to gather intelligence in the US, If they were aware that there was terrorists in America they have to hand that information to the FBI to investigate if any laws have been broken.

Clarke doesn't believe that 9/11 was an inside job. You do.

It's like a moon landing hoaxer using Neil Armstrong as a source

The last big thing that the "community" did was the scammers at AE9/11 making a big stink about getting some professor from Alaska to do some simulations.

You can tell how well that went from how Cheerful gave up on that and hasn't actually once mentioned this since the "paper" came out.

Since then, most conspiracy media have moved on to other scams like anti-vax and Qanon stuff. Most theorists don't bother with 9/11 stuff cause it makes you look as ridiculous as the folks who go on about JFK and the moonlandings.

Please. If anyone finds that video, or cheerful's arguments in any way convincing, reasonable or even coherent, let us know.

Don't all rush...

That has nothing to do with what I wrote.

You are holding up someone who directly contradicts your theory, like a lot of things you come out with here, that makes no sense.

And the only reason they believe something is fishy is because they were told be belief that by some grifter on youtube.

They never bother to think on it. Or verify anything. Or ask any questions. They just believe what they're told and stop any brain activity.

They then repeat what they are told to repeat and expect other people to do the same and shut off their brains. And when they don't they get upset and throw tantrums and plug their ears.

This is why there are no credible conspiracy theories.

You do actually know that intelligence gathering does not happen how you see it on TV and in films.

CIA were aware of 2 of the terriosts in America there does not appear to be an inteligence that these men were of any threat or planning anything (this turned out incorrect)

What probably was happening and still happen to this day in our domestic police forces is that they were being investigated and hoped that this investigation lead them back to the ring leaders. Again this is speculation by me as I dont work in intelligence or law enforcment but it is a speculation by a resonsably intelligent man

But cheerful, you keep displaying your ignorance and hypocrisy at every turn.

You're a holocaust denier.

Other conspiracy theorists pretend you don't exist and don't want to associate with you because your beliefs about the holocaust are both stupid and offensive.

It's the same reason you don't want to associate with Markus because he's a flat earther. His conspiracy theory is embarrassing to you and you'd prefer he didn't exist either.

No one claims 6 million Jewish people were gassed.

This is a strawman you're inventing to pretend your racist bollocks is more reasonable. It fools no one except for gullible folks like yourself and markus.

And again you're displaying you complete dishonesty. You directly and clearly claimed that the figure of 6 million jews was false. You claimed that it was millions less. You are now lying about your own beliefs to pretend they aren't as bad as they are.

If your beliefs were true and reasonable, why would you need to do this?

You have claimed that there was a conspiracy to inflate the numbers of the Jews killed. (And only the Jews for some mysterious reason).

You claimed that this was a Jewish lead conspiracy.

You then tried to argue that the Nazis weren't as bad as was being claimed.

So your line about "the deed itself that mattered. " is pure, orwellian reality shifting bullshit. You are a very delusional and dishonest person.

And again @Markus Antonius why are you not commenting on the fact your friend here is a holocaust denier? Do you agree with him on it? Or are you just that embarrassed by him?

You can't explain what alternatively happened on 9/11 in any normal way, and your story changes all the time. You see things in photos that aren't there. You never demonstrate anything but your own strange fantasy notions of reality.

And like I said before, there are reasonable versions of the 9/11 conspiracy. Like for example, conspirators simply blocked the intelligence reports about the attackers so they could carry it out.

But this isn't exciting. It doesn't involve cool sci-fi technology. It doesn't involve secret special clues that can be found in youtube videos that don't require any thinking.

So conspiracy theorists aren't interested.

They don't care about what's true. They don't care about finding a real conspiracy. They only want to pretend to be special boys with secret information that makes them sound cool and smart.

Also it bares a reminder that Cheerful doesn't actually know what Freefall is or means.

It took months for him to answer a simple maths question about it, and even still he got it wrong.

But cheerful. You showed that you don't know what freefall is.

You showed that you have a less than secondary school knowledge of physics and basic math.

It took like 10 pages for you to realise the difference between an upper case L and a lower case i.

Your attempts to sound smart by using big technical sounding words isn't going to fool anyone.

(For example, your statement: "8 floors with a calculation of 100 feet" is meaningless. It sounds like a young child trying to sound smart.)

You see things that are there in pictures. You believe abject nonsense. You lie constantly.

Why would anyone take what you believe about the "dynamics" of the collapse seriously?

Yet when that same logic is applied a conspiracy theory they recognise is idiotic, like Markus's, they fully recognise that this type of claim is silly and unconvincing.

Either they are so lacking in self awarness they don't understand this, or it's deliberate. They know their argument is nonsense, but they use it anyway.

I think in the case of cheerful, it's the former.

First time in history that a skyscraper was demolished in secret using secret nanothermite silent explosives.

Your posts are becoming less and less coherent now.

Yea, but according to Cheerful all of those structural experts are either part of the conspiracy or not as good at structural engineering as he is.