Would you have room on the farm for refugees?

This is mainly women and kids. The men have stayed in Ukraine.

Its not going to be the simplest set up for these mothers to take up employment, but Im sure they will do their best.

We have put our name down this evening. I just can't sit and do nothing or I'll go mad. 3 empty bedrooms in the house so I put that in. afaik it's mainly women and kids, most don't have a word of English, the kids if they are older usually have some high School English a bit like our french. It's wait and see now, I'll know more tomorrow or whenever they get back to me.

Despite the anger, there is always the risk of repercussions.

What happens when the Russians **** Brian McElduff out of Russia in retaliation? Or worse

Hardly wonderful, I think more for my own sanity.

(Plus if the Weather comes good I'll have great help for the Bog 😜)

We already do that. Taxes pay for houses for the ones who are too lazy to get themselves trained or educated or even work in a job they might be qualified to work in.

If they were cows in the herd, those ones would have been culled long ago and the new ones (e.g. Ukrainians) brought in and given their chance

There's still Irish citizens in Russia. A closed down Irish embassy in Moscow is fcuk all use to them. Dont think for a second it couldn't get tit for tat petty. He's been called out and shown to be a liar so just leave it there.

Have you the same anger against the US embassy seeing all the bombing they’ve done and continue to do?

Think it's more to do with all the Irish planes leased to the Russian airlines.

Russia have taken the planes hostage you could say and won't allow them be flown out of the country back to the Irish leasing companies.

The value of the Irish planes could be in the region of €4.5 billion.

Another reason why Russia is dunked. Who's ever going to do business with them again?

Anyway off topic on a humanitarian thread.

No not at the moment. I don't know where the US is using heavy artillery on civilians or bombing Children's Hospitals. I don't remember any US ambassador coming on RTE news and to the Dail making barefaced lie's and untruths. It's for these reasons he should be removed or else a replacement ambassador demanded at the very least, if only to call them out on it. The Russians are on a campaign of trying to spread lies and justify the even more barbaric acts. No opportunity should be missed to publicly call them out to the rest of the world and the Russian people. Its when a small country like Ireland does something it can be very significant in the eyes of the Ordinary Russian folk

Giving Ukrainians a spare room is not the answer. People are thinking with their hearts not their brains. It's a lovely gesture to accommodate these unfortunate people but how many think this through?

What happens if this war lasts 3 years and not a matter of months? What happens as food and utilities prices start to go through the roof or become limited? Are you going to hit breaking point and kick them out?

If the Ukrainians receive 200 a week, how much will the home owners ask for? There are greedy people who will want the full 200 and still claim they are doing them a favour. There will be bulls@@ters who publicly claim they won't take anything and there will be genuine people who actually won't take anything.

We are hear/know about sexual abuse cases around Ireland, I hate to think what a small percentage may have to go through with some sick freaks we have out there, you know the ones, pillars of the community, church going goody goody two shoes etc. Women will no english and stuck out in the middle of nowhere are going to be vulnerable.

How many people who are willing to give a room, have actually ever shared a house in the past? I did in college and despite meeting great people there are some seriously strange and hard to live with people. Some have horrible habits that you might put up with for a month or two but they will eventually get to you. What then?

Something better needs to be thought off. Whether it's unused hotels and hostels or governments pay for currently functioning hotels etc. For me the whole give them a spare room will be a disaster.

Here goes, I'm ready for the vast amount of insults coming my way.

Yes, they're the ones bombing Ukraine. Its not the Russians at all 😂

We would - you can call over anytime - just don't have a whole Coxey army in tow

Why bother answering the question?

What the media won’t tell you is that it has being going on since 2014 and the Ukrainians are no saints, where was the outrage then? It’s only now that the media want you to be outraged and they’re doing a pretty good job of it.

Against an invading force everything is on the table, especially one that fights with the brutally and savagery of the Russian forces have demonstrated over the last 50 years.

I think 2.5 million refugees and rising speaks for itself.

Bodies of children lying in the streets dead speaks for itself.

I suppose you'll tell me the media is faking those stats and when Russia let's loose the chemical weapons it won't be their fault. The Ukrainians will have made them do it.

So tell us what you think the real story is?

There is no point just being the hurler on the the ditch and automatically saying that everyone else is doing it wrong.

Is there another side to this invasion. That it's really the Ukrainians who invaded Russia. Destroyed their towns, killed their children.

Do you work in Orwell Road by any chance? If not, you should

@Donald Trump

When I suggested governments, I meant not just the Irish one. The EU has a polulation of 447million so Ireland makes up about 1%. Surely other countries have hotels and unused buildings that could be hired. These people need shelter and food, even community halls are better than nothing.

Regarding your comment about sexual abuse, have you never read articles about either parent abusing their kid or someone else's kid? Have you never heard of rape cases in Ireland? How about landlords offering cheaper rent for sex? Strange if you haven't.

Irish people will certainly be able to help a small amount of these people. The OP's unused farmhouse or vacant granny flats are ideal but these are limited numbers.

You neglected to comment on what happens to the Ukrainians if/when home owners get fed up of them or can't afford to keep them due to unforseen costs. What happens in this scenario?

"I think that asking people to volunteer is the quickest way to try to get some people safe and sorted. The government can then focus on the rest". You are absolutely correct but my point still stands about people thinking with their hearts not brains. This isn't a short term crysis. These people will be suffering from PTST and can you put up with crying, possible screaming from nightmares for countless nights over the next few months. Can everyone who is volunteering, actually afford the costs over the next few months. Sure some will, some won't but what happens 2/3 months from now when these households can't take it anymore. Do you think governments will have a solution in that time frame.