Would you have room on the farm for refugees?

blue5000

Some of us younger farmers on the forum have built a new house on the farm for ourselves, in some cases the old farmhouse still has someone living in it, but there are a good few houses empty on farms. Because they are beside the farm yard they are difficult to sell.

With a bit of a spruce up, fix a few slates/windows etc. they could be well fit for use. If anyone has such a house how could we go about getting people into it?

Easten

Are you wanting to provide accommodation to refugees or just rent it out. The accom for refugees you don't get any money from anyone, idk either what rights etc they could eventually have. Say if a family ended up in the house what's to stop them from living there forever.

imho most of them would want to return home at some stage. You don't need a spare house to help, a spare bedroom in the house is enough. We've 3 spare bedrooms in the house now, they've all moved out so we are thinking of offering them. You need to register at the red cross https://registerofpledges.redcross.ie/#/

James2022

Those kind of farm houses would be ideal but I was reading about the requirements saying you need to be situated near public transport and paying all the bills(rent/mortgage/electricity/food/medical etc) so you'd need the works done promptly and the savings to ensure you can put them up for 6-12+ months. I'm not sure what kind of bus or train service you need to live near but the Red Cross said they would inspect properties beforehand. I read something vague about grants/money available in certain conditions.

The first step would be to contact the Red Cross - https://registerofpledges.redcross.ie/#/

Donald Trump

Obviously not for exploitative purposes, but given that Ukraine grows so much grain, there must be a fair few people there with agricultural skills that are needed here. Even if only temporary for the Summer. That would be another way to help them out - give them a job in a role where they can add value and pay them a decent wage. I am surprised I haven't heard anything like that from the farming organisations.

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765689#Comment_118765689

This is mainly women and kids. The men have stayed in Ukraine.

Its not going to be the simplest set up for these mothers to take up employment, but Im sure they will do their best.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765796#Comment_118765796

I'm sure some of them can drive machinery or milk cows etc. Maybe even some mechanics.

Horticulture and processing as well. Keelings were famously bringing in Bulgarians and housing them when they were castigated at the start of Covid

Easten

We have put our name down this evening. I just can't sit and do nothing or I'll go mad. 3 empty bedrooms in the house so I put that in. afaik it's mainly women and kids, most don't have a word of English, the kids if they are older usually have some high School English a bit like our french. It's wait and see now, I'll know more tomorrow or whenever they get back to me.

Easten

What's still bothering me is why is that shite box of a liar ambassador still in the country. ffs just boot him out, he is of no use to anyone now

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765844#Comment_118765844

Well done , be interested to hear how it goes , I’d say will be very rewarding , I wish I had a spare room to do the same .

herdquitter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765850#Comment_118765850

They haven't the backbone to kick him out. There was some drivel last week about "maybe this week" but you see yourself he's still here. More waffle about maybe a citizens assembly on neutrality (couldn't be having a referendum) after the war. Hot air generators are all our politicians are.

Jjameson

A spare room here and the lads can bunk up leaves another. Put our names down at weekend. Farm house is too tough I think a few modular homes would be cheaper to put up for families. really.

I think money is better than buying stuff at retail cost and transporting from here to there. You’d buy a container of toothbrushes costing a few cent apiece for example, cost a couple of euro here.

Jjameson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765868#Comment_118765868

We have to maintain diplomacy as hard as it may be.

FintanMcluskey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765850#Comment_118765850

Despite the anger, there is always the risk of repercussions.

What happens when the Russians **** Brian McElduff out of Russia in retaliation? Or worse

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765844#Comment_118765844

Fair play...that's a wonderful thing to do..

Oscar Madison

Would ye have room on your farm or homes for Irish citizens?

What a shallow lot ye all are!

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765918#Comment_118765918

Oh piss off with this whataboutery crap

Easten

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765917#Comment_118765917

Hardly wonderful, I think more for my own sanity.

(Plus if the Weather comes good I'll have great help for the Bog 😜)

SouthWesterly

The only thing holding us back is the additional costs involved.

Things are tight enough for us but they will be entitled to social welfare payments so would a contribution to costs be doable.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765918#Comment_118765918

We already do that. Taxes pay for houses for the ones who are too lazy to get themselves trained or educated or even work in a job they might be qualified to work in.

If they were cows in the herd, those ones would have been culled long ago and the new ones (e.g. Ukrainians) brought in and given their chance

older by the day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765868#Comment_118765868

Would lads be as ballse if Putin starts retaliation. Remember the hackers of the HSE. We are a small country with no real army. If a submarine came up the Irish sea and nuked Dublin, would lads start throwing stones at it or what. Keep the head down unless you have forty or fifty billion to waste on weapons like the yanks.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765868#Comment_118765868

There's still Irish citizens in Russia. A closed down Irish embassy in Moscow is fcuk all use to them. Dont think for a second it couldn't get tit for tat petty. He's been called out and shown to be a liar so just leave it there.

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118766292#Comment_118766292

Agreed there's more to play for than just kicking them out. The Irish need consular assistance in russia. It could get very tough for them with the way Russia looks at Ireland these days

nklc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765918#Comment_118765918

The refugees are fleeing for there lives

herdquitter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118766158#Comment_118766158

If your aunt had balls......?

For example, a small nation, Iceland has no standing army, is significantly more isolated than we are geographically, has a much lower population, but IS a NATO member.

Freedom isn't free and if we don't stand for what we believe in then we stand for nothing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118766292#Comment_118766292

Many countries have already advised their citizens to leave russia, Ireland are well behind this curve. Coveney out in the Irish Times this morning attempting to walk back the silly position on abstaining from EU weapons supply by saying Ireland HAS chosen a side, is NOT neutral, and IS supplying Ukraines military.

The Irish Government has left the Irish in Russia in a bad spot due to this Governments persistent belief in waffle, thoughts, and prayers.

One cannot be "a bit pregnant".

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765850#Comment_118765850

Have you the same anger against the US embassy seeing all the bombing they’ve done and continue to do?

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118767202#Comment_118767202

Irish people have family, homes, careers, businesses there. If they're not under real threat, why would they leave? Would you leave your home tomorrow?

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118765868#Comment_118765868

Think it's more to do with all the Irish planes leased to the Russian airlines.

Russia have taken the planes hostage you could say and won't allow them be flown out of the country back to the Irish leasing companies.

The value of the Irish planes could be in the region of €4.5 billion.

Another reason why Russia is dunked. Who's ever going to do business with them again?

Anyway off topic on a humanitarian thread.

Ubbquittious

From the site:

All properties must be close to public transport and within a short commute to villages, towns and/or cities

This would rule out a lot of farms

Easten

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118767217#Comment_118767217

No not at the moment. I don't know where the US is using heavy artillery on civilians or bombing Children's Hospitals. I don't remember any US ambassador coming on RTE news and to the Dail making barefaced lie's and untruths. It's for these reasons he should be removed or else a replacement ambassador demanded at the very least, if only to call them out on it. The Russians are on a campaign of trying to spread lies and justify the even more barbaric acts. No opportunity should be missed to publicly call them out to the rest of the world and the Russian people. Its when a small country like Ireland does something it can be very significant in the eyes of the Ordinary Russian folk

Jjameson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118767370#Comment_118767370

Unfortunately the Americans weren’t big on risking losing troops on the ground, Ariel bombardment is their method. Read onetime something over 400000 Iraqis killed and they weren’t all soldiers!. At least a third civilians I think . I despair how brainwashed I was at the time.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118767370#Comment_118767370

The media are the biggest liars in all this.