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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    They need to be consistent.

    Afaik Twitter permanently banned Trump from the platform in January 2021 during the final days of his term as President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭josip


    If that happens, it's a humanitarian crisis and NATO has intervened on that basis before. Although still unlikely to do so this time, because of Russia being a nuclear power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    And just how much of that support is from living sentient human beings do you think? You must surely realise that the Russian PR machine is entirely capable of generating counter propaganda by way of bots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    Humour helps me, feel free to skip past my post if you think I'm being irreverent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Absolutely, our neutrality basically involves hiding behind the skirts of larger states and hoping no one notices us. I would have grave reservations about joining military alliances based on territorial aggression but none whatsoever about military alliances based on defence.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I very much agree on the nuance part

    It's mostly Indians and Muslims. Strange bedfellows there. Muslims aren't too enamoured with the USA, so there's a knee jerk reaction to support Russia. Sad that the victims (Ukrainians) are cast aside in foreign policy arguments.

    Not a shock, because many Muslims would see it sad their victims are cast aside in foreign policy arguments over the last thirty years and no mass sanctions were implemented. A European 'Christian' nation is invaded by another European 'Christian' nation live on social media and it seems the world loses its shít in double quick time and across the board. That's not whataboutery, it's an explanation why some would indeed 'stand with Putin'. India's been sucking on the Soviet teat for a couple of generations, while balancing the West at the same time, so no great shock there. Anything instead of looking hard at themselves, their leaders and some aspects of their culture, social fabric and economics.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Actually you are correct, in his final days.

    I think the point still stands tho. I mean, they could have deleted his account at any time as trump was posting some garbage lol.

    But they waited until a new president was voted and trump was literally on the way out. Same with putin... they'll on do it when he is outed. But late then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Strela would be excellent against attack helicopters. As we move more and more to trying to take cities, the Russian forces on the ground will need tanks and attack helicopters to back up ground forces. That why javelins and Strela will come into play.

    Very hard to hit military jets at high altitude. Russia has not got the technology that the US has on using guided missiles from military planes.

    While it may seem silly these are functional weapons if used in the right way

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    Rumours going around that most of the Russian soldiers were told they were filming a movie called "Steppe Thunder", a kind of rip off of the Tropic Thunder movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    NATO cannot directly intervene but the if the UN gets it's **** together, surely it can send in a peace enforcing coalition of troops. In order to prevent genocide. Of course the Russian veto must be overcome but that is not beyond the collective will of other states. And since we are privileged (cursed?) to be on the security council, maybe more responsibility lies on us than others..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    To be fair, the office Russian President account on Twitter isn't really used for opinions or statements. Seems to be little more than a feed of press releases. Trump's accounts were being used for spreading obvious disinformation and inciting hatred.

    It would probably be a different story if Putin's Twitter account was being used to make direct statements about what was happening in Ukraine.

    The main reason Twitter waited until after the inauguration to delete Trump's account was legal ambiguity. There were questions about whether it could end up in legal hot water by deleting the data of the current sitting president; i.e. who does that data belong to, Twitter, the individual, or the US public? There are fairly strict laws about data retention and such when it comes to US presidents. This is what the buttery males lost their minds over, and why there have been so many legal battles about getting access to records from Trump's time in office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,204 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    A closed stock market has huge issues. It means private pensions funds run out if liquidity especially if they cannot access Foreign reserves. This is no check mate west.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭rgossip30




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    Yeah, gluten content is too low. Hence why we get it from Canada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    And instead they've gone full retard for real...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    There's a slight difference between the lies most people are referring to in our own political context and the outright fabrications that Russia are known for.

    The lies our politicians are generally attacked over are mostly just broken "promises" made in election manifestos and in the Oireachtas. I'm sure in some cases they make "promises" they know for a fact they can't keep but for the most part they're ideals or aspirations which they fully intend to keep.

    It's kinda hard to imagine Lavrov or Putin weren't at the very least aware of the detailed invasion plans which had been signed off on as early as the 18th of January; so they were very likely lying in the truest sense of the word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Germany to increase weapons deliveries to Ukraine including 2700 Russian made shoulder fired anti aircraft missiles ,oh the irony .

    They wouldn't allow their weapons to be sold to ukraine and now they are sending Russian weapons to Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    And speaking of information bubbles, there is no comparison between the state of play with media and social media in the West and places like Russia and China.

    Nobody's aressting me or intimidating me if I go off on a mad one about Micheál Martin, but if you post the wrong thing on WeChat in China, you're being invited in for a chat by the cops. If you print the wrong thing in a paper in Russia, the person who penned it or the editor who approved it can end up in the Moskva river having tripped over his shoelaces.

    There is no equivalenncy. To even suggest that the two realities are the same is fallacious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭josip


    NATO has intervened before without the endorsement of the UN security council, so this isn't a policy/precedent issue.

    It's a practicality issue. This time they would be killing Russians, albeit on foreign soil, but Russians nevertheless and there are escalation risks in doing that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    Time to make more potato bread then!

    But I'd prefer to go without eggs completely if the only alternative is dried egg 🤮



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭josip


    That's interesting, I never realised that. What do they do then with their surplus gas, vent it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Serge Lavrov- the USA is like Hilter or Napolean, thats fighting talk

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    And that's where the UN proves that it's worthy of existence or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    The act of Russia's invading a sovereign neighbor thousands of miles away, has nothing to do with whether an Irish politician told lies at some stage in the past. So take your whataboutery and shove it up your **** hole dipshit.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Talisman


    The objective was a 15 day campaign to take the entire country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And Russia are going to change that..


    I think they will chance their arm against a Nato country but will use the likes of Belarus to do their bidding and say oh we're not involved this is a local historic conflict that needs to be settled



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    One of the things I'm curious about is the Kremlin's propaganda machine and one of the dozen things I worry about in this War is the hardening of the hearts and minds of the Russian people against the West. From everything I've read, it looks like the North Koreanization of the people has begun, but with the war going badly now for the Russian army, I wonder how long more the Kremlin can stay on message ? I read in the Times this morning that Russian POWs were calling home and telling parents that the training exercises and peace-keeping drills they expected to be on were lies. Their Ukrainian captors were telling tearful mothers that they were free to come to Ukraine and collect their frightened sons and bring them home - which is a powerful image. I don't know the programming style of the official Russian news channel, but you'd imagine Russians are probably wondering where is the footage of Russians soldiers being greeted with smiles and kisses from liberated Ukrainians. Of course, Goebbels had films made in the camps of well fed Jews tending to their gardens and playing in orchestras, happy in their labour in the East, so perhaps the Kremlin has this already covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    yes, its likely to continue until China steps in, Putin has designs on linking up Transnistria and Kaliningrad with mainland Russia if nobody stops him before then, the Kaliningrad part will ignite WW3 if he goes for it but they seem to be prepared to do that, theoretically

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    Yes!... got him.

    Drat. Really thought we had him there.

    Then went on to read it was just his waxwork being taken out of a museum - because visitors are now vandalising it. Sigh.


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