Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Politicians in Ireland have never told lies .

And instead they've gone full retard for real...

There's a slight difference between the lies most people are referring to in our own political context and the outright fabrications that Russia are known for.

The lies our politicians are generally attacked over are mostly just broken "promises" made in election manifestos and in the Oireachtas. I'm sure in some cases they make "promises" they know for a fact they can't keep but for the most part they're ideals or aspirations which they fully intend to keep.

It's kinda hard to imagine Lavrov or Putin weren't at the very least aware of the detailed invasion plans which had been signed off on as early as the 18th of January; so they were very likely lying in the truest sense of the word.

Serge Lavrov- the USA is like Hilter or Napolean, thats fighting talk

The act of Russia's invading a sovereign neighbor thousands of miles away, has nothing to do with whether an Irish politician told lies at some stage in the past. So take your whataboutery and shove it up your **** hole dipshit.

And Russia are going to change that..

I think they will chance their arm against a Nato country but will use the likes of Belarus to do their bidding and say oh we're not involved this is a local historic conflict that needs to be settled

yes, its likely to continue until China steps in, Putin has designs on linking up Transnistria and Kaliningrad with mainland Russia if nobody stops him before then, the Kaliningrad part will ignite WW3 if he goes for it but they seem to be prepared to do that, theoretically

Someone mentioned yesterday that any Russians they knew seemed to be unwilling to directly condemn the war. This is unlikely to be some latent agreement with the war and more likely to be an ingrained tendency to not express an opinion that contradicts government doctrine. Cultural memory can be strong, and Russians being "disappeared" for daring to criticise the government has been a feature of Russian life as long as anyone can remember. As a result, your typical Russian is conditioned to just say nothing if they don't want to express support.

We have a lot of vestiges of this here in Ireland - culturally it's considered ignorant and rude to discuss politics and religion in polite company. Which is a hangover from a century or more where expressing certain opinions for (or against) particular institutions could land you in hot water with the local priest or RIC.

Russia taking the piss now:

Ring ,you will get through.

In talk anyway. They still haven't subdued Ukraine in any way and by the time that looks likely they'll have a lot more problems. It's been barely a week and their economy looks like it's beginning to shut down already. China will impress on them the need to go no further.