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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    When will the Covid pass disappear for EU travel? That's the last real restriction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    They can cause a scene if they want...but that's all they can do.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    if the family was freaked out last week, why will they not be next week? Nothing has actually changed other than some words on a piece of paper



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭Quags


    I think I read somewhere that the legislation for that expires on 31st June 2022

    Edit: It seems they want to extend - https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_744



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I don't know its not really rational but I was never intent on starting a family flamewar. I didnt think I needed a booster either but took it for the same reason.

    They probably wouldn't have freaked out last week but maybe 6 weeks ago they might have.

    I guess its a wearing down of anxiety as they see other people going out and do stuff and they aren't dying either. I don't think its just the piece of paper thing but watching normalisation unfold and of course the piece of paper confirming the same. Its a bit of everything.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Oh the irony! I wonder how many of the people you mention who will keep wearing masks are the very people who were the self appointed Covid Police during this thing? Self righteously telling everyone else what to do and when to do it. Oh and as far as I can see most people here are saying they’ve no problem with people wearing masks they just don’t want to be forced into doing so themselves. But then again you knew all that didn’t you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    There is a strong possibility that his advice to take vitamin D saved more lives than lockdown in Ireland ;). He is a good, worth listening to from time to time.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    When there is no medical or health justification for it. Hold on a second…that is already the case…

    The real answer is when an EU love affair with Big Pharma comes to an end.


    Post edited by walus on

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    No. There isn't. I, and most of the population haven't heard of him. He's a nobody.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    Well, he has 2.23m subscribers. That is almost half the population of Ireland. Surely he must have gotten to some of them with his advice.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭cannonballTaffyOjones


    Strange the way people are shiiting all over him now as he seems to agree that omicron is the natural vaccine the world needed and has completely changed the situation in a positive light - they don't like good news.

    Same people loved him when he was all doom and gloom in 2020... strange that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I have no clue who he is now and didn't know who he was then. I'd imagine that goes for the vast majority of the population.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭timmymagoo


    I have always taken vitamin supplements, have natural honey daily and eat healthy. Go to gym 3 nights a week. Rarely drink, don’t smoke.

    even before covid I would have believed many people lead very unhealthy lives , the amount of fat kids is unreal.

    imagine parents giving their children McDonald’s, I would not give to a dog.

    obesity is a serious threat to our health system, why won’t someone do something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    What would you suggest? Everyone knows that junk food is bad and fruit and vegetables are good. Like the face mask restriction, it should be down to personal choice.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,783 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    If I had to guess, next year

    Removal of this will require pan-European agreement and the Italians, Portuguese and French are all pushing for local vaccine passports so are unlikely to accept the removal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Worldwide cases fell by 21% last week. It's been falling for three weeks and fully vaccinated rates are heading for 60%. Between that and the level of natural immunity Omicron has built up that means fewer and fewer places for this new variant to emerge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭cannonballTaffyOjones


    I see Pat Kenny is **** over some new b2 variant ... praying and hoping it's more severe than omicron, God he's a ghoul



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    It reminds me of them homeless people you see in the movies when they are scraping the bottom of the bins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭Quags





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Luke O'Neill, clawing at mask wearing and anything else he can so he doesn't have to give up his media appearances.

    An utter charlatan!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,587 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd



    So antigen tests were a load of nonsense:


    “The proportion of infectious people with SARS-CoV-2 missed by LFTs is substantial enough to be of clinical importance. The proportion missed varied between settings because of different viral load distributions and is likely to be highest in those without symptoms. Key models have substantially overestimated the sensitivity of LFTs compared with empirical data."


    Less than 50% sensitivity. We should have known when the Brits went all in on them that they were useless.


    I’m sure their proponents in here who argued we should have opened up on the basis of them will ignore this but hey ho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    I posted here early on that it would take something like 9-11 to get Covid off the media agenda. Looks like Putin has provided it. Expect very little if any Covid nonsense from here on out. Unfortunately it’s taken the deaths of many innocent people to happen though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    That's certainly one view to take. The study was based on people without symptoms so it's not that surprising really. Even if they are 50% effective on asymptomatic (ie not sick) people it still catches enough to break the line of transmissions and help stop the spread. The other point in that study is they try to define 2hat is infectious. Best of luck with that one as nobody has a scooby-doo when an asymptomatic person is infectious or not.

    The study falls into the bracket of "don't let perfectly get in the way of good"

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    "Show that you didn't understand without saying that you didn't understand."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,587 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    But they AREN’T 50% effective for asymptomatic people, that’s the point. And even the rate of sensitivity for symptomatic people was over estimated.


    It’s over now, vaccination and mutations have combined to get us across the finish line at a societal level, but the calls to open up before time on the basis of lateral flow testing was incorrect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I don't remember many calls to open up based on the use of LFTs. They were/are a useful tool in trying to break transmission lines. Are they perfect? Hell no, but every one they caught was one less person who may have otherwise been completely unaware they had it. They can also be deployed in far larger numbers than PCR tests. We can't expect to PCR the same amount of people as can use LFTs.

    I honestly can't understand the reluctance to just say they serve a purpose as part of an overall strategy. PCRs are grand for clinical settings were a diagnosis is helpful but for most of the general public a LFT does a really good job. It's quick and can catch a lot of cases that would otherwise be missed. A combination of both is better than an over reliance on PCR alone.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Mask wearing was mandatory , but wont be next week.

    Most people are saying they have no problem yet calling them out on it ,

    Want to wear one no problem, dont want to everWe see one again, no problem

    I never berated anyone for not wearing one when they were mandatory and wont be doing it to anyone wearing one from next week

    I dont know anyone,s circumstances or want to know. Do whatever you are comfortable with



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    What would you fantastic diverse people do in this case,

    My brother tested positive for Covid last Sunday morning , no symptoms or anything like that, He has been testing negative since yesterday & none of his family got it,He has invited myself and the 2 kids down to his this weekend for one of his own kids birthdays birthdays, Its down the country so would involve be staying over,

    Now the 3 of us offing had covid 2 weeks ago & are as fully vaccinated as possible,

    Technically its a day short of the isolation period would you still go ?



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