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1967 VW Variant.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Did you use the insert link box at the bottom of the post box? Looks like these <>



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    No vacuum on it at all, its running a 009 dissy, that I put on it from day one when I started it from laying up for 50+ years.

    I was surprised that it ran this well straight off the bat. Before any fine tuning of the carbs and timing tweeking. So it can only improve.

    I will spend a day tuning it, and pop it back in the next day. I am not too worried about the cosmetics of the engine at the moment, I just want a good runner.

    I have another video of the second start as well, but the messing about of loading videos here now since the revamp, is a pain in the hole.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I can rebuild the variant engine blindfolded. But I cant post a youtube vid like the old days.

    Fek that revamp, I'm done, its not happening for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    Well done! Sounds sweet. How did you balance the pistons and pins, just put them on a scale? I assume you found the lightest one and removed material from the other 3 to match? What part did you grind away?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Videos are working fine for me.

    Sounds great! I miss hearing the VWs which were so common when I was kid. My dad always had A-series engined BL cars (and I learned to drive in one), used to be a very common distinctive sound too due to the siamesed exhaust port. The end of leaded petrol killed off almost all of what was left of them.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Thats exactly what I did. Weighed the litest combination of parts, and mixed and matched them to give me the best combination of parts, so that I removed the least amount of material. I ended up with less than.5 of a gram difference between each piston set, which was great.

    There are certain little spots in the piston that are suitable for material removal. Thats what I went for.

    I broke in the rings by running at higher revs, and low revs for a 20 minute period. The engine is now back in the car since yesterday evening, and just have to wire it in the morning and start up



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I ran the rebuilt engine in the car today, and its a better starter than my own white fastback. I noticed that the generator light was on constantly, so I checked it out. I thought it might be that the dynamo needed to be polarised to suit electrics. It was a common thing when dynamos gave trouble, and was a quick process to do on the generator terminals.

    I did that, but the light remained on and no charge at the battery. So out with the multimeter, and a quick check showed that the dynamo was putting out .5 volts. So it needed a specialist to check it out. Dropped it into Tullamore, and will get the verdict tomorrow. I could have gone for a replacement, but at the moment I would like to stick to original.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    Karma, is there a possibility of getting the coil rewound for the dynamo? Not sure if it is a thing anymore but at least it would still be an original, if only a repaired original.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Thats exactly what I am thinking. I would hope that its repairable. But the original starter motor blew segments out of the commutator when it got the amps on it from start up. Repair guy said that the old resin adhesives on the motor and the insulation failed after all the years lying up.Hopefully its not the same with the generator. Fingers crossed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Did you open the dynamo, check the brushes etc?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Yep. The brushes are good, and the commutator is clean and in good fettle. I checked across it with the multimeter and got .5 volt output where there should be 20+ volts at high revs. I never opened the dynamo, but I suspect a short in the windings, thats why I put it into a good spot for repairs. I will know this morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    My God,,,,,talking about Dynamo's. I remember working on 6v ones !!! And the Aunts VW was the one with the split rear window.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Just heard back from the dynamo specialist. The armature has a major fault and cannot be repaired. Only option is to find a replacement armature, or a replacement dynamo, or a new unit.

    Not a problem as I have an earlier replacement dynamo, with the threaded pole connections. I will check its out put later today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    sorry to hear that but it was worth a shot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 27 BbSean


    Double post 🙈



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Not a major problem, its not like they are not available, so it wont stop me driving it when the mechanics are in good fettle.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I checked my earlier dynamo, probably early 60's. But brushes are well shot and armature a bit shabby looking.

    So I took the good brushes from the damaged dynamo. Pulled out the bad brushes from the early dynamo and gave the armature a good clean and paid particular attention to where the brushes seat.

    Re assembled the early dynamo, and checked it on the bench. And its working well. I will re fit it tomorrow.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    New dynamo is up on 700 euro from uk before customs ect😯



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    So back to work on my Variant since the engine rebuild. As I needed to be able to move it in and out of the shed for work, I had no choice but to fix the brakes first. I stripped and rebuilt the front calipers and fitted new hoses. I also replaced all the lines with new brakelines that I made and flared myself. And then to the rear drums. Both wheel cylinders were seized, so had to be stripped, cleaned along with all the adjustors that were welded together with rust.

    And lastly the drivers side hub was seized and would not release from the hub no matter what amount of hammering took place. To buy a new larger hub puller was over 700 euro. So I made one.


    I used a VW Beetle rim that I knew would bolt on, and a scaffold adjustable foot lift, that could take the brute force needed.The parts I needed.

    Welded up and ready to fit on the hub.


    And fitted and ready for the big pull.

    A bit of effort and hey presto,


    And now I can crack on with the brakes.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I got the final drum sorted and now I have brakes so I can safely manouvre around the house.

    Next was to tackle the surface rust on the roof, front hood and wings so that they dont get any worse than they are.

    I had considered a rat look finish to lessen the work load after my heart attack, but thought to hell with that a rat look is basically a **** look. The car deserves more.

    So off to strip the wings , hood and roof.

    I started with this,

    And after a bit of judicial sanding and the right discs, I got to this on the wings to reveal absolutely solid original metal that needs no welding at all.

    And the front hood.


    I put a coat of convertox just to keep the rust at bay until the metal is finished to a level for epoxy primer.


    I have cleaned out the gutter rails which normally are the first to rot on a roof. But they are in great shape.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I moved onto the back wing as it was too wet to bring the car outside to work on the roof.

    Its a common place for rust issues on a type 3 , hopefully its confined to the wing.


    Bottom half of the wing is well shot with rust and bad corrosion.

    Plenty of sand lodged behind the wing.


    But thankfully no serious rust damage.

    And a quick measure and mock up of a replacement repair piece.


    Just need to mark the arch contour, and prepare that, and the jobs a good un.

    Then onto the wing on the opposite side to make a similar panel.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Getting back to working on the variant, i decided to tackle the front clip and inner panel. Both of which had some damage from a front bump, and then the rust in the damaged ares.





  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    More of the rust issues in the spare wheel well. The two side panels are no longer available so I will have to make them and just made a start on them.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭emo72


    It's just like to say this is one of the best threads I've ever enjoyed on here. My dad had this car when we were kids, wish I had it now. Kadman you can't be taking a few months off from this, we need more frequent updates!



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Ah fek off.......a heart attack sort of feks up yer timeline.. Thanks for your enthusiasm😀


    But never fear, its back on track now. The fuel tank supports are available now, so they will be bought for it, and the side panels will be made now.




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Side panels were tricky enough to copy, so I just split them in half and traced the back half, and then traced the front half.

    Joined them together and traced them out on a sheet of 1mm mild steel. They originally measured .8mm.

    A few minutes later we have the profiled pattern.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    Sorry to hear that, hope you're OK now. Keep up the great work, but take it easy:)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    I also love this thread and look forward to updates. You remind me so much of my father who was able to recreate almost any car part.

    I hope your health has improved and you can continue your work at your leisure. We do love updates but your health comes first.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I am back full blast at the car repairs now.thanks for all your kind sentiments. Now enough about me, more on the car.


    The fuel tank support on the right hand side took a whack when the bumper did, it probably got crumpled a bit, rust set in, and now needs replacing. I'll post a pic of that later this morning.

    The other side appears fine, but I notice some rust issue there as well, so its best to come out too. As the rear panel of the spare wheel well is also being replaced and is attached to the lower prongs of the fuel tank supports, its best to replace both sides, once the tank is out.


    Pics to follow.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Hey emo72 if you can find any old pics of the car when your dad had it, that would be great. I'd love to see it in its heyday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Looking at the brake carrier plate...memories !!!Not to mention the small amount of dust. I remember when it was SOP during a service, with the car on a wheel free lift to spin the wheels with the airline nozzle, and blow the brake ( asbestos) dust out of hubs. No masks, no safety precautions whatsoever. Different times.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    If you look closely at the 2 pics of the right and left hand fuel tank supports you can see the rust damage that needs replacing. Rather than repairing with patches, I think its best to replacing the full panel section considering the front suspension bushes are located here. If you look at the hi lighted area on both left and right you can clearly see the damage.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sorry to hear about your heart problem, Kadman. Glad to hear that you are recovered and back in action again! Very nice to be following your VW Variant restoration, and its coming on very well. 🙂



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Doc said you are an engineer, so in engineers terms" Your pump is 100%, no damage there< but your fuel lines are clogged so we will clear them out for you" Which he did so kadmans resto is over, and the variant is ongoing. Variant was always going to be longer than kadmans resto😀


    Thanks.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Here is a better pic of the side panels that need to be made. The panels from 69 onwards are still available with a different bumper mount, but the earlier one's which I need are no longer made. This pic has the 2 front wings removed, but the front clip, and inner clip still intact.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Overall, the valance looks to be in pretty good nick, and from what's visible of the Driver's side valance, that does not look bad either.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    That car is in great nick, but its not the car I'm working on. It was just used to better show the location of the panel being worked on😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Where they could be very problematic was the inner door pillar, which carried the hinge's. This occurred mostly at the passenger side, as these doors tended to be not used as much and the hinge's started to seize up, with all the attendant problems.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Beagslife


    Jesus, the weather's taken a bit of turn down there!



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman




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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Just trying the roughly formed panel for a fit and to check and mark in the bumper mount hole and locations.

    Once thats done I will tidy them up, and take out the tank and tackle the fuel tank supports. Here is the bead roller as well that forms the beads and chamfers or whatever shape you need. Its a bit small for this job, but I'm not aiming for concourse at all here, just a strong decent repair.

    The repair panels that are sometimes available, are basically a flat panel with no forming, as you can see from the bent panel the upper part of the wheelhouse is bent outwards.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, they were a great car, and so was the fast back version, and this one will be too when you get it finished.🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Very professional job. Any idea whet the torsion bars are like?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Car handles well on the road when I drove it around so i dont expect any issues with the torsion bars as it sits well on the road.

    Bump stop rubbers and suspension front and back are readily available, so thats not going to be a problem. I normally start at the engine, then brakes so I can move it around. I'm going to do the body then, and finish on the remaining mechanicals, which are readily available.


    I'm doing the body first as the panels are available now, and may not be in 12 months if I do the mechanicals first. Thats the plan, it gives me the opportunity of a drive now and then😀



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Hopefully mig welding gas is not sourced from russia🤣🤣🤣



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