Knock/Eirtrade thread

Seen it on twitter earlier


https://twitter.com/Irelandwest/status/1396043978240364548

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I do chuckle at Knocks twitter announcing the arrival of these aircraft, but not why they're there. They were the same when the A380 came in. We can take an A380! Yes, but it's never getting out again.

Actually I think it can, maybe not fully laden

(I think I read that somewhere!)

Fly Globespan wasn't it? Terrible airline. Tried to do it with a 737, which unsurprisingly didn't have the legs to get across the Atlantic westbound in one go most of the time.

I said it on a Shannon Airport thread yesterday, but it's every bit as applicable to Knock - long haul outside of Dublin is all but dead, Knock might as well post videos of 330s and 380s landing for scrapping, because that's the only reason they will ever have to land at Knock. It's the equivalent of medical diversions at Shannon, brings in a few quid for the airport but of no real relevance to scheduled passenger operations.

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Fly Globespan wasn't it? Terrible airline. Tried to do it with a 737, which unsurprisingly didn't have the legs to get across the Atlantic westbound in one go most of the time.

They used 757s that were constantly going tech at the end. Remember horror stories of people getting stranded in New York.

Took a spin up to the airport earlier. Been a while since I was there. Jeeze, them A330's are BIG, could see them from miles off!!!

The other A330 left for Kemble last week as well.

That one was from May (and I've just realised so was your post, oops! 😁 )

Weird that tweets used to embed on the old site, but not the new one... here's EI-LAX from this afternoon. Aer Lingus didn't bother covering over the livery as most airlines do. Think this is the first time Knock have mentioned "final journey" in their tweets (I suppose if they didn't, some goon would start posting about EI starting a TA service from Knock!!)

https://twitter.com/Irelandwest/status/1421094066230636546

Qatar have taken some of their 350s out of service due to an issue with the skin. They are subbing 330s.

Might this shuffle of 330 be related to the 350 issue ?

No, the A330s still on Qatar's books being returned to use were/are all in storage in Doha, the A330 (VPCNV, formerly A7AEA) which went to Kemble is not part of their fleet - was owned by Castlelake and recently sold to Executive Jet for parts recovery by Air Salvage International.

The issue with the A350s is the under paint conductive metal mesh (basically the anti-lightning coat) I believe.

Possibly related to the A7-ALL issue which was discovered last year in Shannon? A7-ALL was sent to Tolouse months ago but not repaired so could be a bigger issue than we know.

It's slightly more at 228 metres longer/748 feet.

Pretty certain 16/34 can only handle departing A330-200 with PAX at MTOW (or A330-300 ferrying with a reduced MTOW perhaps - no passengers, no cargo, less fuel etc.), but not A330-300 with PAX at full MTOW, though I could be wrong, have seen crosswind departures where traffic including the 200s was using 16 for departures but the 300s still used 10R/28L during the same period of 16 usage.

The extra 228 metres at Knock obviously makes a bit of a difference however as 747s are cleared from Knock with PAX, something 16/34 can't handle.

Probably worth nothing that it's not just the runway lenght and MTOW which dictates which aircraft can use it, but also the ambient temperature, climb restrictions etc.

it also depends on pavement strength for a fully loaded 330-300 and a wide enough turning circle at either end.

Have they started on EI-LAX yet, thanks

Whatever happened their plans to scrap more A380s (2 or 3 was it?) at Knock?

I wonder would they sell a cut out of Fearless Lady :D