DUBLIN IS TOTALLY UNLIVABLE **Mod Warning In Post #671**

I am absent from Dublin for quite a while.

However it's hard to believe that Temple Bar, and around St. Stephen's green would be full of drug dealers exchanging "merchandise" and that being a very common sight.

Temple Bar, drinking, moderate or out of control yes, but I don't think drugs are the major factor there.

If this was about East Wall, then yes, I would believe it very much.

I work at Ormond Quay.

Daily I have to step over human **** to get into the building in the morning.

When I am in the canteen at work I can see the back lane and junkies shooting up openly. One fella last week dropped the trousers and injected into his cock by the looks of it from my vantage point. In the boardroom we can see the O donavan Rossa brigde (4 courts) and there is open drug dealing every day. Electric scooter, grey cotton tracksuits, black nike runners and black puffer jackets etc. Thats the uniform.

I am from Dublin and I am ashamed of the place now as a native. I hate what it has become and the irony of it all is the rent and property prices people have to pay is mental.

Its a hellhole everywhere bar the leafy southside areas

And is that all the positives you perceive in Dublin? Croke Park & Landsdown road? You don't consider the restaurants, the huge range of food, the bars, cafes, galleries, museums, beaches, parks, clubs, societies, arts & music scene, ect.. as positives? Let alone the heritage, complex history, architectural splendour.

I'm just interested, did you never did anything of cultural value when you lived there?

There is very little architectural splendor in Dublin. A consequence of empire and a state that didn't have a pot to piss in for decades tbh.

Dublin has all of the amenities you mention, but of those that are unique how often does the average Dubliner visit them? People are not exactly visiting the national museums every week. Great food, restaurants pubs beaches etc can be found easily outside the city too.

In terms of fine civic architecture, there aren't many places in Dublin that exemplify that. Grand Canal Dock, maybe? But even that is run down with almost all of the inground architectural lighting broken.

In any case, when comparing areas to live in, you have to take a much broader view. For many people, not having to look at junkies and scrotes, and in particular not having their children growing up with them far far outweighs and perceived civic or amenity benefits that Dublin has to offer.

The only draw Dublin has, or rather had was employment. If WFH continues, the city will be abandoned by anyone with sense.

This isn't unique. The hollowing out of cities has happened many times before.

Was out last night. Jesus its grim once you cross over to the northside over the Ha'penny bridge. Really realy grim.

Liffey St, Lotts, Middle Abbey St, O'Connell St etc. Its a sh1thole. Needs looking at asap. The southside/northside divide has never been bigger. In that area of town anyway. North Lotts is basically a dangerous junkie street now. And if there aren't junkies theres gangs of scum.

Jaysus that's terrifying. Not even sure who the lad with the knife was trying to stab there, could easily have gotten either of the two on the ground with those wild swings.

I can't say if its worse or not but crossing the liffey has always been an extreme sport.

Yeah and I know what im getting. But hadnt been that way after working hours for a while and the place has gone downhill rapidly. Its a real dump. Half the shops are closed or boarded up, its dirty and grim.

North Lotts Street and Bachelors Walk/Way should be and could be one of the coolest places in the city.

Look at the fcuking state of this.

Seems I have to conduct my business in the shitholes. I have avoided town for about a year!

No. A lot of the city is thriving. Most of it actually. Places like Stonybatter, Capel St, Inchicore and Rialto have been transformed. Places southside of the city centre like Camden St are great. But for some reason that north quays and north inner city area of the city is a complete kip. Worse than ever nearly. Pics above are about 30 feet from O'Connell St.

Most homeless people live in the city centre thats where the services are located ,its very rare i see a fight or an argument on the street . I,ve never seen anyone taking heroin, there has always been rough area,s in dublin.Many area,s of dublin are quieter and better than ever, we have the luas, we have new offices being built.theres street cleaners working every day all over dublin. i see no problem with people selling decorations, at xmas for 2 weeks. Every city has junkies and some level of crime ,but i think dublin is generally a good place to live.you need common sense ,if theres 2 or 3 young people hanging round a lane do not go there, turn around,walk the other way homeless people beg ,they are not all junkies.

i see young people walking around with a phone in their back pocket so obviously they feel safe.

the city centre is fairly quiet after 10pm, apart from people going to pubs, clubs or temple bar area.

just google crime new york city or los angeles ,its much worse than dublin

In los Angeles there's posh million dollar homes. 5 minutes down the street there's

an area with 100s of people living in tents at least in Dublin there's a system where

people can live in hostels rather than on the streets I cycle around Dublin every day. It's very rare to see people using drugs if there's people dealing openly I never noticed it there's a wide range areas in Dublin working class middle class

and areas like ballsbridge where a house can be 700k

the guards need to bring back a bit of of the “Lugs Brannigan” style of policing for the junkies and never do wells types

Glass half full or empty? My yardstick is the Dublin I grew up in the 80s when I moved from the suburbs to north inner city. Dublin then was like bombed out East Berlin DDR style. There are still huge pockets of dereliction but at least the trajectory is going in the right direction. The Docklands is the most notable example but there are many pockets of improvement. The leaders of the pack (sticking within the canals) are: Islandbridge, Chapelizard, Stoneybatter/Grangegorman campus, Ringsend, Kilmainham, Portobello, Smithfield, the Guinness area off Thomas St and parts of the Liberties like Francis/Meath St. Still stuck in 80s mode are: the Coombe, Pimlico, Mountjoy to the Five Lamps and beyond to East Wall and Maryland/ Donore to Dolphins Barn.

Irish Rail and the Dart operators are still stuck in 80s mode. There's no shortage of money so why are those antiques still rattling around? Connolly Stn is junkie central. Same can be said for DCC relative to their more effective peers in Rathdown and Fingal CC. Remarkable how DCC and IR rail management are invisible and totally unaccountable.

What do you do with them? Forced rehabilitation? Keep them in holding cells?

Theyre as close to a pointless arrest as you could think. Junkies aren't the issue, they're relatively harmless but obviously an issue/eyesore.

We need areas for specific types of people. City centre should be for tourist, workers and law abiding citizens.

Satellite drug towns with legalisation is what we need for adults who want to use. Same with social housing.

Satellite towns where anyone not part of good society can be housed. They can all run riot. Ring roads is all you'd need to police then.

Anyone trying to get into norm Town needs a day pass or they need to sneak in via bogland and fields.

As many have said, D1 is generally very run down and it is worsened by the junkies and over concentration of poor social housing.

but with new hotels going up in D1 and the Clerys & old Debenhams buildings reopening soon, there will be a boost for the area.

Making Smithfield market a fulltime market is also being worked on, but why it takes so long to get it up and running when it housed markets over paddys weekend is a mystery.

D1 aside though, most of south east dublin in particular is lovely.

Thats where id reccomend tourists go.

lovely houses, bars, restaurants, cafes, theatres, sports grounds, sea, harbour, parks and beaches with the mountains on your doorstep.

And not a junkie or scoobie in sight.

Best part of the country bar none.

D1 is like a different city. literally.

Loads of junkies in Dun Laoghaire. Always has been.

I really don't know what the city council are doing on the northside. Almost all of the good places are due to private investment. Pubs, restaurants etc.

Look at the cut of this for example. The old burned out SF HQ. How long has it been like this for? 5 years?

care to elaborate more. who's calling the shots ...politicos or senior mangement?

Yeah, DLR seem to take more pride in public facilities and their look and style vs DCC.

Shame DCC cant have a bit of imagination.

Glad you enjoyed the day out!

The comment Dublin is a big place made me laugh. The area between the canals isn't big and they still can't fix it up.

Sure the council haven't been able to get neither the smithfield market nor the liberties market up and running in a city desperately in need of something different than chain stores or pubs.

i know they are 'working on it'.....for decades.

The only big improvement I noticed on the northside, is the grangegorman/cabra area. Although inmho large parts of Cabra aswell as East wall, should be knocked down and redeveloped, the huge number of ridiculously small ex council houses (and frankly ugly, with not many retail outlets) in a central area are not fit for purpose.

DCC aren't even cleaning the streets properly in large sections of North inner city and out to the Northside. The place looks dilapidated. Places like Dorset st. are absolutely filthy partly cos.they still use bin bags there!

It also doesn't seem to help that a lot of redevelopmentsin places like Phibsboro have been held up by objectors.

My last commentis I think they almost destroyed Smtihfield by over developing it and local businesses such as traditional pubs are almost gone . You don't get any feeling that it used to be a famous horse market, nothing..its a bit sad. It wasn't great in the past I know but the square itself seems to have shrunk tremendously as a public space. Grangegorman was done right though.

Yes the south coastal area sich as Monkstown was always the 'tony area ' of Dublin, but how about upgrading the rest of it. They are concentrating their emegency and homeless housing and drug treatment centres in the North inner city, they shouldn't use it as a dumping ground for the city's and country's social problems.