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The Canada Convoy

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    What's going on elsewhere does not apply to us at all and we will continue to have voluntary vaccinations. Some countries have dug themselves into a hole with mandatory vaccines but they may get away with it because of public support for a hard line on vaccination.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,918 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Do the public support it in Canada? Or restrictions in general?

    Seeing as most of Europe and elsewhere are beginning to relax and signalling that the pandemic phase is coming to an end, its hard to justify all these restrictions or mandatory vaccinations/quarantines in Canada - that btw is what the truck convoy began over, requests that all truckers quarantined after crossing CAN-US border, which would have been a logistical nightmare.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Please provide the studies that say you're more likely to develop omicron if vaccinated. On top of that, the viral peak lasts longer in the unvaccinated so they tend to spread it for longer than the vaccinated.


    Very interested in seeing that study now cause it's a substantial claim.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    General government support during the pandemic, which does kind of give them carte blanche. The support levels to Austria and France for this type of measure. I don't think it is a CT to suggest that if our powers that be had viewed it as being required the public too would have backed them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Some Canada guy was talking about the Trucker convoy of peace and love on Radio 1 this morning. Two things he said stood out. The vast majority of Canadians don't support the Truckers- a blatant lie.

    Most the the Truckers are not real Truckers- another disgraceful lie.

    The establishment loving modern leftists belief that people are fools gives them the audacity to lie and fabricate whatever falsehood they need to further their agenda. This is why CNNs ratings are in the toilet. People hate being lied to and thats exactly what this clown did live on air this morning. The narrative has to be controlled at all costs.

    Of course there was no mention of the indoctrinated left wing terrorist who drove his car into the protesters of peace and love. That story wasn't touched by MSM.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,609 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Aren’t something like 80% of Canadians fully vaccinated? Can’t imagine those who have gotten their “shots” supporting the vax evaders.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    People were called conspiracy nutjobs when they expressed concerns many moons ago that vaccines would become mandatory. People like you called them tinfoilers. And now here we have mandatory vaccines in Austria and people like you are back-peddling saying "we don't have vaccine mandates in Ireland you CT nutters" Vaccine mandates are happening and you are still calling those people who express concern CT-ers, as if the mandates AREN'T happening and are just a figment of people's imaginations. Why are you calling what is happening before your very eyes "nonsense"? Do you think the smoking ban happened everywhere instantaneously? It was first implemented in Ireland in 2005. It didn't happen in The Netherlands until 3 years later.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It seems alot of support is coming from groups using crowd funding in the states which would suggest freedom loving trump supporters



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    the comment on CNN is not random they cant make the numbers they had when trump was in & revenue is haemorraging CNN ( clearly not news) are not able to get the listenership of Joe Rogan and are very jealous thence the hachet job they are trying to do on him too . They need to clean up their own shop all screwing each other literally......full of sexual misconduct, a den of vipers . CNN the voice of the liberals what dirty bastards they are proving to be!!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    No suggestion needed, there were Trump flags and US flags being carried around and reports of confederate flags and swastikas, but I saw one swastika in the background of an interview, which could be an isolated thing. Gofundme also blocked a fundraising attempt in the States from using their platform.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is a tad since they brought up CNN. Eg he was referring to a segment on rte radio 1. We're in Ireland, the vast majority of us don't tend to use CNN as our primary source of news. And the irony is that the previous poster lied and claimed the majority of the Canadian public support the convoy. (Neither of my sources were CNN)


    You have a pretty clear agenda but so far you and the other posters in this thread read like the conspiracy theories forum. There's been numerous examples of posters coming out with claims and not backing them up when they're asked for proof.



  • Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭bb12


    i think the truckers are fantastic and a real inspiration...and to stand their ground in such freezing temperatures. well done to all. it looks like the gov will do all in their power to try and antagonise them into violence at this stage, so hopefully they don't fall for the bait. trudeau is a disgrace running and hiding from his population..hopefully the rest of canada will now see the true colours of the guy they elected.

    for all those who are against his demonstration and want to see a harsh government response, then ok, we're in a free society(or at least have been up to now) and it's ok to have your opinion...however what will happen when you decide to protest on something close to your heart and you're not allowed? that's the path you are paving for belittling and putting these demonstrations down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    Are you still hoarding enough toilet paper to wrap around the Eiffel Tower?



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    Forcing people to take a vaccine because they might get sick and take up hospital resources is a fcuking Orwellian argument. And it's amazing how many people actually think it's valid. How about you and your kids are all forced to have your appendix and tonsils removed because they might become inflamed and you and your brats wind up in a precious hospital bed that could go to someone a bit more deserving than selfish people such as yourselves. And if you develop complications or the operations are botched just suck it up. You might develop testicular cancer so how's about we lop off your balls as well? Although judging by how easy you march in lockstep it doesn't sound like you have any.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Orwellian the most overused and misused of terms... This could be like a game of bingo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    I am Canadian and I disagree with the way these protests are done. I also believe that the majority of Canadians don't agree with these protesters, also I don't believe that the majority of the Canadian truck drivers agree with the protesters as well.

    Canada's vaccine uptake was very very high, even though the government, federal as well as provincial didn't really do a good job in the pandemic, - early snap election last year included.

    This kind of convoy protest is very un-Canadian, and I think it's done by a small minority, which is driven to do this by their right wing friends in the US, close to Donald Trump's circles and other conspiracy theory minded individuals, like QAnon, etc...



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭growleaves


    'Here are some examples of what groupthink can lead to. Stuff that is more likely to happen among Conspiracy Theorists, than normal people.'

    Except that anyone not in a coma has observed groupthink in action, of the bluntest and most block-headed kind imaginable, amongst a section of the Irish public over the last two years.

    The sulking, the bitterness, the refusal to consider other points of view, the unwillingness to take exceptions into account (not everyone is in a position to just abandon their elderly parents to isolation), the incuriosity about why people were declining vaccination. Just a wall of ignorance and intolerance.

    Whenever I look back on these years I will picture a sour office drone working from home and bashing out on their keyboard 'Why can't you just STAy at HOME!!! FFS!! Muppets!!'



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The Austrian Health Minister has said the Austrian's government's own constitutional lawyers may veto the mandvax. They will make it very easy for themselves should they decide to climb down from their hard-line stance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Thousands have come out all over Canada in support of the convoy. The optical evidence is available in abundance. $9m has been raised as a gesture of support also. . Where's your evidence that the majority don't agree with the protest?

    Btw , most truckers are already vaxed. They are protesting most of all mandatory vaccination for children. This is why they have so much support , not only in Canada , but from all over the world.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I linked to polling on where the public stand in relation to it... You just ignored it. 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Those finding aren't directly linked to the current convoy. I ignored it because its a dishonest correlation.


    Our findings indicate that a majority of Canadians support most of the measures that have been employed by federal and provincial governments aimed at preventing the transmission of COVID-19. In most cases support has remained relatively stable since the beginning of the pandemic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Thousands, I believe they are or were initially 18000, are still a very very small minority in Canada. This "freedom" convoy has been strongly condemned by associations representing truck drivers. Yes the vast majority of truck drivers are vaccinated, but many protesters have also no connection to truck driving. I think they are funded from far right groups in the US, also the confederate flag has been seen and even nazi style swastikas.

    They have also been desecrating the tomb of the unknown soldier, the national war memorial and a statue of Terry Fox.

    The problem you have as well in Canada is that Trudeau and the federal government doesn't have too much say, but a lot is down to provincial politics and provincial premieres who are fearing an election result, - such as Ford in Ontario. This always led to a federal - provincial debate.

    Also at the same time some Covid 19 travel restrictions are ridiculous, such as testing before and after arrival for vaccinated travellers arriving from countries other than the US, causing rediculously long queues with infection risks at airports especially at Pearson in Toronto, but this has no real impact on truck driving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I haven’t done any back pedalling at all. Show where I took an advanced position and went back on it. Back up your claim!

    As for calling someone a CT’ist…. “If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck”. The CT forum here is full of people coming out with very similar stuff. Are they all correct?



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Starfire20


    yeah, the money was frozen cause its been organised by white-supremacist Pat King and his side-kick made off with $1M and went to ground.

    lots of the "truckers" taking food from the homeless by showing up to soup kitchens etc and demanding food. Lovely bunch.

    Nazi flags and confederate flags being flown by some of them too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If this kind of **** shows up at a protest and the other protestors are fine with it, you know exactly what kind of protest it is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Starfire20



    Tamara Lich and B.J. Dichter, listed as the organizers of the movement’s GoFundMe page which has amassed more than 6 million dollars in donations, are not truckers.

    Lich, who lives in Medicine Hat, Alberta, served as an organizer for Yellow Vests Canada, an organization associated with members of Canada’s ‘far-right’ movement that often spews anti-muslim racism. She is currently working as secretary for the Maverick party, a fringe political party in Alberta whose initial aim was to separate from Canada. She’s also been known to share Islamaphobic conspiracy theories on her social media pages and make anti-muslim comments as well.

    “Canadians, are you paying attention yet? … We do not want the Muslim Brotherhood in Canada.”, Lich posted on Facebook

    B.J. Dichter, a supporter of the anti-immigrant far-right People’s Party of Canada, shares Lich’s sentiments on Muslims. In 2019, he claimed that “Despite what our corporate media and political leaders want to admit, Islamist entryism and the adaptation of political Islam is rotting away at our society like syphilis.”



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  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    A cliche such as what you put forth? You are attempting to label people, and doing it with slogans and then looking to the gallery for smirks and thanks.

    People, 12 months, maybe more ago, expressed concerns that forced vaccinations were on the cards. They were called conspiracy theory nutcases. Were you one who might have barked out that label?

    Maybe...maybe not. But now forced vaccinations are being introduced. Someone expresses concern and you answer is that it's in Austria, and if one thinks it might become au fait elsewhere then they should just take their concerns to the "Conspiracy Theory" forum?



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