The Tipperary GAA Discussion Thread

evolvingtipperary101 · 17-01-2022 2:48pm

evolvingtipperary101 · 18-01-2022 1:00am

Billy Seymour and Andrew Ormonde let go from the panel.

Players being looked at:

Conor Bowe (Moyne/Templetuohy)

Dylan Walsh (Ballingarry)

Enda Heffernan (Clonoulty/Rossmore)

Ciaran Connolly (Loughmore/Castleleiney)

Sean Ryan (Templederry)

Darragh Carey (Templederry)

Rian Doody (Cappawhite)

Ger Browne (Cashel KC)

Sean Curran (Mullinahone)

Kian O’Kelly (Kilruane)

Declan McGrath (Kiladangan)

Jack Ryan (Clonoulty)

Rhys Shelley GK (Moycarkey-Borris)

Joe Fogarty (Moneygall)

Conor Whelan,

Conor Stakelum

Denis Maher

Over 40 players being looked at.

I have to say the inclusion of Sean Curran is puzzling to me. He was last in, in 2016. He is a very industrious player at inter county level - but never brought his club form to the intercounty scene. I have to say, I can't understand why Sean Hayes is not involved. But it might be the same reason, Ormonde was let go. Looks like we're going back to a direct high-ball game. Looking at players like Doody, Kian O'Kelly, and Declan Ryan's son, confirm this, I think. No Devon Ryan.

Mantis Toboggan · 18-01-2022 6:35pm

Bubbles dropped?

Not on the panel for the NHL

evolvingtipperary101 · 18-01-2022 7:09pm

Bubbles deemed surplus to requirements. Although some people saying Bubbles himself has opted not to return to training in December and is still sitting it out. BUt Tipp Fm say, Tipperary GAA have confirmed that "he's not currently part of the management's plans for 2022". No Ciarán Connolly. Bonner returns. Odds on, this panel will change a lot. Tynan injured a few weeks ago. I'm very surprised Rhys Shelley didn't make it.

Barry Hogan Kiladangan

Brian Hogan Lorrha Dorrha

Craig Morgan Kilruane MacDonaghs

Brian McGrath Loughmore-Castleiney

Cathal Barrett Holycross-Ballycahill

Eoghan Connolly Cashel King Cormacs

Ronan Maher Thurles Sarsfields

Robert Byrne Portroe

Paddy Cadell JK Brackens

Barry Heffernan Nenagh Eire Óg

Dillon Quirke Clonoulty Rossmore

James Quigley Kiladangan

Enda Heffernan Clonoulty Rossmore

John Meagher Loughmore-Castleiney

Seamus Kennedy St Marys

Dan McCormack Borris-Ileigh

Alan Flynn Kiladangan

Cian Darcy Kilruane MacDonaghs

Conor Bowe Moyne-Templetuohy

John McGrath Loughmore-Castleiney

Patrick Maher Lorrha Dorrha

Ger Browne Cashel King Cormacs

Mark Kehoe Kilsheelan Kilcash

Michael Breene Ballina

Noel McGrath Loughmore-Castleiney

Padraic Maher Thurles Sarsfields

Conor Stakelum Thurles Sarsfields

Jake Morris Nenagh Eire Óg

Gearoid O’Connor Moyne-Templetuohy

Dillon Walsh Ballingarry

Denis Maher Thurles Sarsfields

Jason Forde Silvermines

Paul Flynn Kiladangan

Seamus Callanan Drom & Inch

evolvingtipperary101 · 21-01-2022 8:14pm

Tipperary GAA has announced payments firm Fiserv as the county's new jersey sponsor in a two-year deal.

evolvingtipperary101 · 21-01-2022 8:17pm

2001 inspired

evolvingtipperary101 · 21-01-2022 8:18pm

evolvingtipperary101 · 21-01-2022 8:25pm

Bryan O’Mara and Ciaran Connolly both said to be going travelling this year and can't commit to Tipp... And yet both lined out for UL today. I'd imagine they're doing a course at the UNI... but are travelling for the year? Doesn't add up. They're not the first young men in recent years to not take on the commitment of hurling for Tipp, Jerome Cahill, for instance, needs to be openly discussed now and addressed. Surely, alternative training arrangements can be found if the most talented, career-focused guys don't want to give up all their time.

Mantis Toboggan · 21-01-2022 8:32pm

New Jersey is very nice, think I'll have to get it. Mick Hogan being included is a nice touch and the collar is back!

Bryan O'Mara is going traveling and over to the US in the summer.

Can't blame then, good craic and a wad of cash I'd be doing the same tbh.

Lost Ormond · 21-01-2022 9:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118514059#Comment_118514059

They may be travelling after they finish university and coach may not want them involved for league if theyre gone for championship. Nothing too difficult to figure out tbh...

What are these alternatives that need to be discussed then?

evolvingtipperary101 · 21-01-2022 9:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118514086#Comment_118514086

I think the new jersey is class. Love the collar. Agree on Mick Hogan image.

True enough, I would never blame anyone for a choice. If I was Bonnar I'd try and get them for the League and Munster championship at least - too talented to let go without keeping them training- college will be finishing around the same time as the Munster comp. Even if they leave before the all-ireland championship, their talent is worth it, in my book.

Billy Ocean · 21-01-2022 11:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118514059#Comment_118514059

Presume there going to the States for the summer so no point being involved for the league if you're gone for the championship.

PeggyShippen · 22-01-2022 1:52pm

The new Jersey looks really impressive. The white collar makes it. Michael Hogan was a handsome man but im not sure I'd have him on the jersey for the whole year. It seems abit much.

I'd have to agree woth the last poster. You can't have guys in for half a season. It just wouldn't work especially if they were hurling up a storm in training and were good enough to start. The jury is firmly out on Bonnar. I dont rate him and find him inflexible in his gameplans.

Mad about baa baas · 22-01-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515228#Comment_118515228

Most courses in ul involve a 9month work placement so perhaps the boys are travelling to the states for that..

evolvingtipperary101 · 22-01-2022 9:33pm

Conor Whelan transferring to Mullinahone. There was an agreement with Carrick Davins that he could play underage with Mullinahone. Apparently, Carrick didn't see this coming. I'm surprised they didn't. He has been playing underage with Mullinahone players and the bond will have obviously grown. Also, probably, the thing best thing for Whelan and his ambitions.

Mantis Toboggan · 22-01-2022 9:55pm

Strange one, why was he with mull in the first place? I'd imagine they could have a case.

evolvingtipperary101 · 23-01-2022 9:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118518820#Comment_118518820

I'd imagine it's something to do with Davin's grade/small pick and Whelan's intercounty ambitions. Davin's won a South Tipperary Under-21 B Hurling Championship in 2018. And the Minor C in 2012. Whelan got to play in a county final under 21 A final with Mull the other day...

evolvingtipperary101 · 24-01-2022 3:24pm

Bonnar confirms that injury is the reason.

“Who wouldn’t like to have John on their panel?

“I’ve been talking to John since December and he’s having trouble with his knee and we got it scanned.

“It just developed, he tried the knee again out in early January in a challenge match and it was a lot worse than he thought.'

PeggyShippen · 24-01-2022 8:12pm

The whole 'Bubbles ' saga rumbles on. Why wouldnt someone from the management come out initially and say 'by the way John O'Dwyer is not on the panel because hes injured'. But that didn't happen. Now a week or 2 later the manager comes out and says he would be on the panel but he's injured.

All I'm waiting for now is Bubblez to come out and say 'I'm actually Fit,Knee is grand'.

callaway92 · 24-01-2022 8:14pm

Ya it’s fairly embarrassing the way they’ve went about it. Needed to grow a pair and just say he isn’t in their 2022 plans instead of being soft about it.

Paddico · 31-01-2022 2:41pm

Poor start for the Footballers yesterday. Lets hope its a little better in the next round

evolvingtipperary101 · 01-02-2022 12:14pm

Paudie has retired. One of the best to ever pick up a stick. A career to be celebrated.

A man who played through all types of injuries has retired due to a neck injury. He must step away from all contact sport.

evolvingtipperary101 · 01-02-2022 12:26pm

PeggyShippen · 01-02-2022 1:24pm

Great player. He ll be a big loss because I thought he could play fullback for another 2 or 3 years.

Fantastic career..great under the high ball and very strong and for me one of the best passers of a ball to forwards ever. He hadn't great pace but his positioning was always top class and he was rarely rounded..Conor Legane a few times got him on the outside but no shame in that. Just a top class player and he's a good guard by all accounts...well liked by the working class community of Moyross where he's done alot of work.

There's a leadership role up for grabs in that Tipperary squad now. Hard to see them winning silverware in 2022 but youd never know.

Fred Astaire · 01-02-2022 3:25pm

I'd be genuinely shocked if we got out of Munster.

castletownman · 01-02-2022 4:37pm

Speaking as a Wexfordman, I always thought Paudie was superb. Easily makes the best XV of my life (half-back line of Walsh-Maher-JJ). To have won All Stars at full,centre and wing back sums up his class. Some durability to have played every championship game since 2009 and it's very sad that he can't even finish out his career with his club.

A modern day great.

evolvingtipperary101 · 01-02-2022 8:19pm

I hope he gets a second and a third expert's opinion - just to leave no doubt whatsoever in his mind. To go without any kind of contact sport whatsoever in his life again - that's woeful for a man like that.

zetecescort · 01-02-2022 9:16pm

would agree with all said above about Paudie Maher but he got away with some amount of charging with the ball in hand 😊

newhouse87 · 01-02-2022 10:03pm

Greatest hurler i have seen in tipp jersey and up there with greatest i have seen in my lifetime of any county. Brady decided to retire with him. 2goats.

farmerval · 01-02-2022 11:09pm

Incredible durability and a constant high standard of performance. Three or four years ago I feared his inability to turn was going to scupper him, but instead of that his performances and leadership increased.

He simply rose to every challenge that presented itself. Truly a leader, should have been hurler of the year in 2016, had big game changing moments in every match. In the 2019 final when we looked in trouble after 15 - 18 mins Paidi and Brendan led the charge to lift the siege and we never looked back. His ability to grab the high ball and step around the man were amazing.

Some very big boots to fill in the defence now, character and leadership needed more than ever.

lim4ev · 02-02-2022 12:38am

as a limerick man I'll add my best wishes to him great hurler very durable I Don't normally do these tributes but know he's a guard here in limerick and we'll thought of too so best of luck in his retirement

evolvingtipperary101 · 02-02-2022 2:41pm

There's talk of another retirement imminent ... but these things can grow legs...

callaway92 · 02-02-2022 4:15pm

I feel like Management really didn't prepare in advance for this period now of ageing player retirements anyway. The AI win 2 years ago should've been a finish for a few players but they've been kept on. Genuinely could see us going without a win in the Championship this year.

klose · 02-02-2022 4:58pm

Brendan and Paudie maher both gone now, colm bonnars job was a hard enough task but you probably couldn't be losing two better hurlers in your first year managing the team.

Mantis Toboggan · 02-02-2022 7:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118571258#Comment_118571258

Yeah but you cant blame that on Bonner.

Mixture of Sheedy not having faith and developing the young players and the players not taking the limited chances they got.

callaway92 · 02-02-2022 7:41pm

100% not blaming it on Bonnar - he came into a beaten team I think

evolvingtipperary101 · 04-02-2022 12:08am

The advancement of players has been handled very well. Good core group ready to take on the senior player tag - Forde, McCormack, Kennedy, Ronan Maher, Breen, John McGrath, Barry Heffernan, Barrett - all coming into their prime.

Nice younger group of players now too - that have been part of the senior squad for 2 to 3 years too and still in their early twenties and ready to shove on with proper S&C under their belts. Very well managed by successive managers. That's the key to having managers coming from the same core group - Sheedy, O'Shea, Mick Ryan, Dunne and so on.

Team for the weekend. Jake Morris did his hamstring playing for Maynooth tonight - can't see him starting unless it was just precaution. Thought he was limping though.

evolvingtipperary101 · 05-02-2022 2:18pm

Jake Morris on the S&C and years required to get up to the next level:

“It’s a hard step up to come from under 20/21 to senior, especially nowadays with the S&C that’s involved in getting your body right for inter-county hurling, it’s immense so it definitely is harder than some people think.

“I feel the couple of years I am after playing is after helping me a lot with a lot of learnings from it. There is definitely a big step up from under-20/21 to senior, which hasn’t been there in previous years, just with the level of S&C and looking after yourself and stuff like that. I definitely feel the last couple of years are after helping me bridge that gap and I feel a bit more ready at this level than I did before.”

evolvingtipperary101 · 05-02-2022 10:25pm

Ronan Maher is the captain of the hurling side for 2022.

Everyone in the panel voted by secret ballot. A unanimous choice.

evolvingtipperary101 · 06-02-2022 5:11pm

FT: TIPPERARY 2-08 LEITRIM 2-16

An eight point defeat on your own patch. And not against a top side, either. Bleak.

Mantis Toboggan · 06-02-2022 7:19pm

Dark day for the footballers, not looking good for the year.

evolvingtipperary101 · 06-02-2022 11:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591471#Comment_118591471

Hopefully they can turn it around throughout the league. But the players they've lost is bound to affect them in a big way.

evolvingtipperary101 · 06-02-2022 11:10pm

I thought Cleere was terrible again last night. He' s just not an intercounty ref.

evolvingtipperary101 · 11-02-2022 10:19pm

The Tipp to face Kilkenny is named as unchanged from the Laois game.

farmerval · 12-02-2022 12:17am

Sunday will be interesting. Will show what way the management are looking to play.

timmymagoo · 13-02-2022 2:21pm

what You reckon of munster this year, can tipp make the top three?

for me it’s going to be Limerick, Waterford and cork

if we could manage to beat Waterford in the opening game we might have a chance, but lose and it will be tough going

it’s hard to gauge the new talent and honestly we won’t know what we have until the Munster championship is over

I think If we could get out of Munster and make a semi final and be competitive it will be a very good year

nklc · 13-02-2022 2:43pm

We seem to forget that we’re the only team last year to make limerick look ordinary , albeit for 35 minutes. If the ref had the guts to send off Gilane , who knows how the game would have worked out . Against Waterford, sheedy was way too slow bringing on John Mc . Callanan missed as much as he scored against Waterford. A few small things could have swung our year . Looking forward to the round robin

Ompala · 13-02-2022 5:31pm

Weird game so far. Kk the better team. Seem to have much more pattern to their play. This system is new to Tipp and it is showing. Kk much more purpose going forward but their shooting is very poor. Tipp forwards much more accurate with ball in hand. Goal was a gift.

PeggyShippen · 13-02-2022 5:44pm

Tipperary are leading with about 30% of the ball. So nice little plays but 2 average teams in comparison with last nights heavyweight clash. Morris took his goal very well. I like Morgan is the corner...abit light but then most of the team are.

The Jersey looks awfull with the red writing on the back and the back on the front

farmerval · 13-02-2022 9:19pm

Weird game, Kilkenny hit loads of wides, both teams had periods of dominance. Worryingly in the third quarter we appeared to fall asleep in the middle third. Kilkenny had loose men everywhere.

Jake Morris is probably our best inside forward, but yet again he end sup out the field, back in the half backline near the end.

It was nice to win it, we've been losing those games for years now, nice to get on the right side of it for a change. I thought Ger Browne played well, as did Morgan, Paddy Cadell had a good cameo near the end. Disappointing to see Seamie with a poor miss near the end, just for his confidence. Last year he looked like it wasn't just coming as easy to him as it used to.

Barret Man of the match for me. Dan McCormack was quiet. Our two starting midfielders were quiet. Hard to see any change in pattern under the new management.

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