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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,829 ✭✭✭User1998


    All I’m seeing is people saying they would rather work from home. I didn’t see any mention of restrictions, I must have missed it



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    So now that the dust has settled somewhat...what's the story with all those that thought we'd be locked down in January? ...that we'd have severe restrictions for three months? ...this classic - "When will play centres need to check covid certs for a six year old before letting them in? Anyone who thinks this isn't on the way is a moron." ..."may as well write Easter off already" ..."No chance will passes be done away with, just a matter of time before other things are added to it." ...mandatory vaccinations? ..."Another Paddy's Day in lockdown is looking very likely." ..."No booster no job on it's way next without a doubt."

    Can you now see that all your fretting and doom mongering and hyperbole was a load of shíte? It was comical reading this thread from around the 18th of December until the tale end of last week. Yis were in competition with each other to come up with crazy forecasts. Thanks for the amusement.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    I would like to be the first to congratulate you on your accurate prediction. After nearly two full years of getting it wrong every single time and insisting that the "doom mongers" were talking a load of shite, finally—finally!—here you are.

    It must be a relief to be up on that high horse after such a long time of being repeatedly covered in manure.

    Bravo!


    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)





  • Making stuff up again I see.

    Ye are getting so tetchy at being proven so wrong



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  • Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    You didn't prove anything wrong. You quite literally asked for any evidence of collateral damage from restrictions, then when I provided it you declared it nonsense and hand-waved it.

    I don't think anyone living in a fantasy land where there's zero cost to shutting down and restricting all aspects of social and economic activity to varying degrees for almost two years has any room to talk about being proven wrong, but we can revisit in five years if you'd like.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Varadkar has been spouting shíte since the start. I don't understand how anyone took him seriously after sneaking the 'quotes' into the serious public announcements.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Niamh on

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)





  • Never change guys, keep inventing altered versions of other people point of view so you can go on believing you have won the internet



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    They can be brought back with a stroke of the pen too, better start a political party to fight against it...



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    That's a bit harsh.

    I wasn't one of those who predicted x,y & z, but had you asked me on December 18 whether we'll be in lockdown in January I would have said, 'yes, more likely than not'. Simply from past experience.

    And you can't deny that the tone has shifted very quickly, almost abruptly. You can tell by how many are actually taken aback by it. It went from 'this terrible disease will have us in its grip for years to come' to 'thats grand now' almost overnight.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it. But I don't think this shift was predictable in December. We were definitely contemplating lockdown at some point in December I'd say. Omicron and Boris Johnson (there, I said it!) saved us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Well that nonsensical and ridiculous comment sure tops all!

    There is no "seatbelt argument" other than the one in your head.

    The issue raised was things which were legally required.

    And sunshine, if you've been buying your facemasks out of a pounshop, not washing them, whilst constantly fingering them in out of your pockets and handbag - you're doing it wrong. And a 3 year old could have pointed that out to you 🤣😅😂

    Plenty of decent facemasks available. Just don't put them your pocket or handbag and for chris sake stop fingering them!

    Post edited by Mecanudo on


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,267 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I don't know what you find funny... Take a walk about and observe the masks people are using and how they are being used... You'd need an army of "three year olds"... And isn't that the point?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Boris Johnson had fúck all to do with it.

    Not everyone was predicting a lockdown. It was only the doom mongers.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    You do seem obsessed with how other people use masks, can't say I've noticed the same (a few noses on show is about the height of it).

    But are you saying better masks for all or no masks because a few idiots can't use them right? The latter is a bit of a stupid position (considering theyll likely be unneeded by end of Feb on current case and hospitalisation trajectory).



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,699 ✭✭✭Nuts102


    It really seems to upset alot of people to give Boris credit.

    We were amongst the most Conservative countries in the world for rolling back on restrictions.

    Yet people seem to think we would have moved ahead with this without seeing the results out of England.

    Omicron and Boris are two of the biggest reasons we done what we did and we are probably running out of money also.

    Whether we would have went into a lockdown or not, we would certainly be still heavily restricted without those two.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    😂😅🤣 Thats hillarious. Asking for an adult discussion whilst liberally throwing childish insults.

    Anyway you do know that public health advice on mask wearing has always been as much about others as your own rather bizarre ideas about cults, buying into "narratives" or others maybe thinking you're some type of "introvert"?

    You ask how can you not 'finger a mask'? Really? We're only in the third year of the pandemic and you've still no idea how to use a mask?

    I'd suggest you look up how to put a mask on if you're "fingering" them all the time.

    Heres a simple one which might help .

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/proper-mask-wearing-coronavirus-prevention-infographic



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Canada still losing the plot i see. Hard to believe really


    All roads lead to Rome.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    This.

    I'm very very far from the Tories politically. They're a bunch of self-entitled tofts out for their privilege and they dont give a sh** about the ordinary Joe or anything really. But I kinda like Boris.

    Maybe he has me conned, I dont know. He probably has. They're all masters at playing to their audience, its in their job description.

    But regardless, I dont think we would have done what we did, at least not nearly as quickly, without seeing the developments across the water. And what happened across the water was clearly his doing. Credit where credit is due.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    TBH when we look at our own strategy, much as we like to point to some of the obvious flaws in it, overall it has been a very benign if frustrating imposition. That's been helped by our willingness to get vaccinated although even that is not good enough for some countries.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,664 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    While we didn't go as far as "shopping escorts", don't forget there were complaints about the likes of Dunnes allowing people to buy "non-essential" items during the more severe restrictions too until they bended to the pressure - buy groceries... grand. Buy a jacket in the next aisle.. nope!

    We weren't that much better, but I don't get why Canada are still persisting with the theatrics alright!



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Again, Boris had fúck all to do with it. The north have only binned covid passes today. Were they following us?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,699 ✭✭✭Nuts102


    So you think one of most Conservative countries in the world in regards Covid would have led the way in dropping restrictions without seeing the results elsewhere?

    What actions from the past two years makes you believe we would have done this?

    Please be specific on the actions from our government that makes you believe we would have removed restrictions without seeing results elsewhere.

    Boris took the risk and led the way.

    We followed after looking at the results.

    You could argue the English prime minister done more for ending restrictions than anyone in the Irish government sadly enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Seeing us do it undoubtedly puts the pressure on them, yes.

    When they first announced relaxations before ROI, they still said theyd be keeping covid passes for events etc. Has that since changed, or are you just describing their initial announcement now taking effect?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭Red Silurian



    I think Jackets, as well as trousers, socks, underwear, jumpers, T-Shirts and baby clothes were deemed essential, but in any case Dunnes would sell you anything if you told them it was essential to you



  • Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I think that may depend on your location, no shops near me sold any of that stuff during the lockdowns bar baby clothes.

    A friend of mine had her baby prematurely last February and wasn’t prepared, her husband had to all but get on his hands and knees to beg to be allowed buy a few nightdresses in Tesco for her as they weren’t considered essential.

    I also recall a mother ringing in the local radio station, she needed a coat for her son and had to order one online as none were for sale in the shops. She had to guess the size as she obviously couldn’t try it on him, and it didn’t fit.

    She was on the PUP and then had to wait a few weeks to do an online return for the coat and for her refund to be processed before she could afford to buy another one.

    Meanwhile coats and jackets were cordoned off like a crime scene in the local Dunnes and Tesco, while homeware was was available to buy as needed.

    It was totally nonsensical.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I don't think it was anything like this coherent at the time, just bouts of outrage that Dunnes et al were not following the rules.



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