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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭moonage


    If masks stop being mandatory and if I ran a shop I'd be tempted to ban mask wearing on the premises.

    Masks are of great benefit to shoplifters and for hold-ups. Imagine two years someone if someone came in masked—the staff would be wary and suspicious and on their guard.

    Also, the normalisation of mask wearing is troubling and should be discouraged. If you want to come into my (fictional) shop take off that mask and if you won't you can take your business elsewhere!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    I'm taking the approach that I'll mask up until the shop indicates that I don't need to. Case in point - wore one into my barbers this morning, and had no problem taking it off once they said I didn't need to keep it on - place was quiet as all cuts are by appointment these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,508 ✭✭✭✭end of the road



    given that isn't happening, and simply wearing a mask in crowded situations technically wouldn't constitute expecting the rest of society to cater to mythical people's mythical fears, then your point doesn't work here really.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    How? Have a look at that thread for frankly increasingly bizarre attacks on anyone who is not prepared to hide behind a piece of cloth indefinitely because the posters in question are still living like its March 2020

    I can just imagine this sort of person complaining noisily to TDs or radio stations, or store managers because someone wasn't wearing a mask and they didn't feel safe etc

    Ultimately you'd hope this would be dismissed as the panicky scaremongering it is, but given that we live in a world of hypersensitivity and "feelz" who knows what reactions they might get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Masks will be no longer mandatory at the end of February by the looks of it. The fearful people can decide to wear them them if they want. 👍



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf



    Complaining to a store manager that other people in the store are not wearing a mask after it has ceased to be mandatory? That would be crackpot behaviour; I don't see any posts in the masks thread suggestive of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    This thread has been a great read from start to finish. So many emotions. Mostly frustration. Sometimes that was down to certain posters but more recently (since about the 22nd of October mostly) it's been the restrictions. There was a lot of admiration too. This forum is a great place and has some very articulate, intelligent posters on both sides...if you could truly say there were two sides. I've always maintained that everyone wanted the same thing - for the restrictions to ease. Some wanted to do it one way and some another. It was down to the pacing. Last summer was a bit of a joke. There's caution...and there's an over abundance of caution. The government were the latter obviously. The buzz in here since yesterday has been great. Long may it continue. I'm currently looking at buying a few gig tickets south of the border! That fúcking vaccine pass was the worst restriction of all for me. I had one (up until the start of January) due to having caught Covid but I refused to use it. Anyway...rambling drunk posting. Uppa restrictions thread!

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Not to be pedantic, but for the whole of March 2020 we were absolutely not to wear masks:

    "There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO health emergencies program, said at a media briefing in Geneva, Switzerland, on Monday (March 30th, 2020).

    The Science™

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I dunno, I have seen episodes of crime call recently and the absolute dopes are not wearing masks. If you're going in to shoplift, wear a mask FFS 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Clinging on for dear life, time to let it go 🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    No I agree with the above. I was referring to some still having the same attitude and responses as though we still knew nothing about this virus or how deadly (or not!) it was and to whom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Maybe you should have another read of some of the posts. Some of these people are still living in total fear of something that is no more dangerous than the sniffles to the vast majority of people at this stage and lashing out at anyone who tries to inject a bit of objectivity and reality into the conversation.

    I could totally imagine such people running to a store manager if they spotted someone in the local Tesco not wearing a mask.

    It's these sort of people that have partly led to the hyper cautious approach to the "crisis" that has been taken in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Some of these "experts" will not want to let the publicity and no doubt money they've received for commentary like this go.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can imagine that anxious and/or introverted people loved masks, social distancing, and work from home.

    It was their normal life conditions suddenly made national policy. Everyone was living like them, in effect. We were living their normal.

    In fact, you could argue that what we called restrictions were already self-imposed by these people on themselves, by themselves, for years into the past before the pandemic even sprung up.

    Of course they're going to be devastated by the easing of restrictions.

    When everyone was social distancing / avoiding social engagement / working from home / and wearing masks etc., it probably made them feel totally normal. Entering a pub / restaurant and being told where to sit, and to avoid others, must have been a fantastic experience for them.

    But they have to get used to the fact that it's not normal to social distance, wear masks, avoid gatherings, work from home, and so on.

    They can continue to wear masks for the rest of their lives, stay at home for the rest of their lives, and all the rest.

    Just leave the rest of us alone, thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭bloopy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭eddie73


    All I can say in return is that I wore a mask during 2021 as instructed, got covid. Passed it onto my uncle despite wearing one in his house when visiting him before xmas. No sneezing. No coughing. The margins are tiny in terms of protection. In fact, it is a dangerous thing to expect to be protected when wearing one, so people should be aware of this rather than going into situations thinking they are potentially going to spread or pick up coronavirus. I think that if people wore N95 masks they would have better protection v virtually no protection from the ones we are all wearing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭timmymagoo


    At the start it was normal to be wary of the virus because the media and politicians told us we were goosed and the propaganda was heavy

    By May 2020 any sane person with a mathematical mind knew this virus was no big deal

    2021 deaths in ireland when released will be under 30k total , less then 2018 and 2019

    The reason you have such higher deaths in the some other countries is due to hospitals sending elderly very sick people with covid back to nursing homes, they did not protect the very setting that needed protection

    But you are 100% right, many people have enjoyed lockdowns - Working from home, pup 350 per week, no nightclubs open, no annoying young ones hanging around in groups, spying and informing on neighbours who were meeting family in back gardens, etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Tool, Spiritualized, All Together Now festival for starters.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I could totally imagine such people running to a store manager if they spotted someone in the local Tesco not wearing a mask.

    After masks are no longer mandatory in those settings? 'Imagine' is certainly the operative word in that sentence.

    They can continue to wear masks for the rest of their lives, stay at home for the rest of their lives, and all the rest.

    Just leave the rest of us alone, thanks!

    In what way do you envisage such people 'interfering' with the rest of us after all restrictions have been lifted?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Did you wear a seatbelt when you didn't drive a car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    What are the chances of vaccines not required for international travel in Europe?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You don’t need to be vaccinated now for international travel in Europe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Some people just love restrictions. We had to cancel a group trip for next weekend on Friday due to 2 not feeling safe to go. All fully boosted, healthy 30something year olds. 3 of the group have had covid already. Then one of the people who didn't feel safe was posting and highlighting how the government went against NPHET again and had the letter to government to back this up on what's app yesterday. My own feeling is if you want to stay at home do, but let those who want to move on with their lives do so. I've heard of so many people in their late 30s, early 40s pass away in the last few months. Nobody knows what tomorrow will bring. Nothing is guaranteed. Life is supposed to be enjoyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    I’ve been told to travel to Spain(lanzarote) anyone in family 12+ requires a vaccine, and booster(last dose) required within 9 months.

    would love this to be incorrect



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    I assume a negative PCR within 72 or antigen within 48 hours would suffice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    let those who want to move on with their lives do so. 

    Again, how will those people be prevented from doing so once all restrictions are lifted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭bloopy




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    • Proof of vaccination, or
    • Proof of recovery, or
    • Either a negative PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival in Spain, or a negative antigen test taken within 48 hours prior to arrival in Spain




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Somebody please explain to me the current nonsense around masks? Do people still need to wear them entering and exiting a bar and restaurant and to go to the jacks?



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