Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

Different setting, not on the street so you’re ok…..you’re in your safe space

Of course it all depends on what they look like aswell. The response to the cat calling/wolf whistling (which is juvenile and pathetic by the way) will not be uniform and the reaction will largely depend on who the person is giving it. Unwanted attention of this kind is usually judged on after the fact so to speak i.e when I get a look at the bloke i'll decide afterwards whether it was something I wanted or not.

If a stranger gives you the eye in a bar and approaches to ask a girl out its usually going to be perceived in one of 2 ways:

1) Average/below average looking bloke- Get away from me your creep, and tells girl mates about very "bad vibes" he was giving off.

2) Above average/Very attractive guy- "Well hello", "I admire that guys bravery, what a sweet guy"

I have to laugh at some of these "issues". Men are allowed to age in peace? As another poster said, for whose purpose are you wearing make up? Society tells you so?

I find there is a wealth of expensive creams/make up options on sale because its usually women who spend a fortune on them and see them as lifes essentials. A marketing executives dream. I'd try being a bit more thick skinned and maybe going without face paint and cream for a while, I think you might find the world doesn't give a damn that your face isn't as hydrated as it should be and the responsibility you feel has been summoned by yourself and your own perceptions.

Usually, its a perception to keep up with what other women are doing rather than for the benefit of any man.

Are you suggesting that female suicides are under-reported more than male ones? Have anything to back that up? The last research I remember on it was that women were more likely to engage in "cry for help" suicide attempts involving methods likely to fail whereas men were more likely to use more certain "just do it" methods (a rather bleak win for the guys tbh: we're better at killing ourselves)...

Most of the expectations you say society places on women are, let's face it, placed upon them by other women. The anti-ageing / diet / cosmetic / fashion industries are all female lead. Want proof of that? Compare the models in a fashion magazine to those on a porn site that's aimed at men. You'll have far more variety in size, shape and age on the porn site.

I've never heard of "meggings" before but I'd be shocked if it was man who came up with the term. Any bloke I know whose worn that kind of lycra gear for sports tends to refer to them as "thermals".

"Karens" as a group earned their derison tbh. Anyone who's ever worked in retail knows the type: the pompous self-important middle aged woman who deems all others to be beneath her because she was so clever as to marry a successful (or simply wealthy) man. Having worked all kinds of retail and customer service jobs during my teens and college years, I don't think I ever met a male version.

Medical treatment is an interesting one to bring up when the facts show that more is spent on women's healthcare than mens, more public health campaigns and screening services exist for women than men (while anyone with an ounce of common sense would admit Ireland's recent cervical screening scandal was a horrendous failure of the HSE there was public outrage about it and the service is, if nothing else, well funded and promoted - do we even have a public screening system for prostate cancer? If so, I've never seen an ad for it...). I'm not sure where you're going with the cosmetic surgery angle... that's a market pretty much entirely driven by women: the demand is there so it's hardly surprising that in a free market, medical professionals will leave the notoriously stressful work environment of the public health service to make hay in the private cosmetic treatment market. If there's any blame to be dished up here, surely it's on the women (and to be fair increasing numbers of men) that are creating that demand and luring doctors away from the business of actually treating illness?

Your final sentence is perhaps the most worrying: you've listed sex as something to be mentioned alongside violence and abuse. Now, perhaps you meant to differentiate between sexual and other forms of abuse? Or are you of the extremist feminist view that any form of heterosexual sexual interaction is in fact a form of rape?

Walshb, in all fairness, why should we get past it. It's the crux of the whole thing.

The discussions in the media, the stories on social media, the newspaper articles, the Late Late Show, all of them, all of them are about this topic. Women talking about their safety. Giving their experineces about running past a group commenting on their appearance. Their safety about not being able to go about in public, to go for a run, a walk, a coffee.

While it might suit you to say, not all females take offence, a huge percentage do. More do than dont. They are the people that have spoken out the past week on all forms of social media. Do they not have a voice? Should they get past it?

Who are you to say the vast majority of these incidents are not threatening. How can you say that, when they are not happening to you. How can you disregard the feedback from the hundreds of thousands of women who have come out and given their experiences over the past week or so.

The discussion should focus on WHAT should be done to stop it and HOW , rather than SHOULD SOMETHING be done.

Because following what happened to Ashling, hundreds of thousands of women have come out and said enough is enough, something should be done, about the murder, about the element of fear, about not being able to go for a jog, about not being able to sit at a cafe on your own.

ABOUT ALL OF IT.

YOU ARE NOT LISTENING.

Most of us thought we were having a discussion about safety issues, not nuisance issues?

I walk the dog around here at night, don’t think for a minute guys are waltzing around at night or on their own whistling zipadeedooda as they pass a group of teenagers. There’s no monopoly on feeling vulnerable.

Would that be the FG justice minister who presided over the cancellation of hundreds of thousands of emergency calls to 999?

Thousands of them from female victims of violent crime.

Helen McEntee couldnt give a sh1te.

As, as Larry Gogan said, the questions didn't suit ya.

No problem with that.