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Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 41 cokeiscrap


    Thanks @Tell me how for the link.

    Genuinely believed that social nights were not work as they happened outside normal hours and alcohol was freely available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭Shao Kahn


    If you're going to make the argument that men need to be better educated, but the broad subject matter is about the diverse interactions that occur between two different sexes... it would make more logical sense to promote the better education of both sexes inclusively. Or just all people generally.

    Unless we are going with the assumption here, that all women are perfect flawless beings that never put a foot wrong or make any poor judgments in life? This seems to be the vague implied argument from many people around these topics.

    As just one example. As a male, I have fairly good instincts at spotting potentially dodgy blokes in daily life. And I'm sure I'm not the only guy out there, that has a reasonable idea of who the decent trustworthy guys are and who the dangerous dodgy ones are.

    In my experience, many women don't seem to have this same level of awareness. I've witnessed more times than I can even care to remember, women who seem to be completely oblivious to what I would term "obvious warning signs" that a certain guy is a bit dodgy / untrustworthy.

    Now, this might seem like I'm victim blaming here. That's not my intention in any way by highlighting such discrepancies. I am simply stating something very obvious to me, that I have observed in daily life. If that dodgy guy goes on to do something horrible, that is unequivocally the man's fault. I am not trying to muddy the waters on that point what so ever.

    I can't walk up to a woman, and say "Hey, you know that dude seems a bit dodge... maybe you should keep away from him!" I can't prove he's dangerous, and there is obviously always the chance that my instincts could be wrong on that occasion.

    So painting men as a group, as being both the sole cause AND the sole solution to all these problems... is both deeply unhelpful and just plain wrong. Education needs to be across the board, not just directed at one group of people.

    Although I do feel a natural instinct to protect women from danger, as an individual man, I have a very limited impact in terms of what I can actually achieve. And as a group, men have limitations in terms of what we can achieve as well. The blame game very often only serves to obfuscate this fact, and make the problems even harder to solve.

    "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives, and it puts itself into our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." (John Wayne)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Johnstown and Urlingford are so close to Thurles and Templemore you might as well say they are part of the Thurles area.

    As a resident Thurles man, take my word that a lot of girls in these areas are compulsive liars and tend to exaggerate. For example the longer a girl is on the housing list here, the more times she’s allegedly getting raped on a daily basis by the Syrian Refugees who are taking all de how-shezs.

    Go look on Thurles groups and there’s always an alleged abduction, cliche bag of sweets offered by the man in the white van, child successfully fending off the much larger and stronger adult etc. Always happens at or near the council estates.

    take it with a pinch of salt.

    It’s an area where the only ambition is to be an unmarried mother with your scumbag boyfriend. All the factories and industries left a very long time ago and every young woman has an elevated BMI from eating daily in Supermacs.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,353 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm not even sure it was posted in the right universe



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭anewme




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'd be fine with sensible education for young people. I think consent is a gray area to a lot of people. If you get chatting about it on Boards, you'll see a blanket joke to the effect of "consent is easy, dont rape anyone". But if you get mych further with the discussion you'll see a pretty broad range of opinions about what consentnis and how its understood.

    Maybe consent is taught well in schools now, but I wasn't taught in any detail in my day.

    You'll never stop the bad eggs from raping or murdering, or making up an accusation out of nothing, by giving them consent classes. That's not the point. The point is to educate both men and women so they both know what they have and haven't consented to. If you care about men being accused of rape in a marginal situation, then if both of them have a shared view of what consent is, those cases are less likely to arrise.

    I don't dispute your ability to spot a bad egg, but statistically, women are better at spotting psychopaths from photographs alone. Not sure what that tells us, but there you have it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭AyeGer




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Underground


    This is a slight side note to the thread topic but it isn't entirely unrelated.

    In the wake of the Ashling Murphy murder there were a lot of women (and men) understandably upset. Twitter tends to bring out the worst in people and there was more than the usual level of man hating on the platform at this time, again, I can understand it.

    I noticed a lot of the Irish girls in favour of ideas such as men needing licenses to socialise etc had their revolut links in their bio, despite seemingly not producing any content of value. Just normal sh1tposting like everybody else on Twitter.

    Can someone explain to me why they put their revolut links in their bio despite the fact that they provide no content of value? I notice people like Justine Stafford or other female Irish comedians will provide their PayPal links etc but this makes sense. They put effort into making skits and videos and put them on their socials free of charge, some of them are hilarious and people will quite rightly want to pay them for it.



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