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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    Here is a little observation, on the Oct 2020 thread you linked here ⬆️ Notice the lack of posts from the religious posters on all things covid doom? None of that mob had one thing to say in that thread, plenty to say in everything and anything else covid but when it comes to posting in that thread……nothing, nada and do you know what? I knew I wouldn’t find certain posters respond when I had a scan back……does that tell you anything about certain mindsets of some fanatic posters here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    These are peer reviewed papers, there are many more (if you look into the meta-analysis sources in particular), as you said, if you're going to question the data, bring evidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    You’re a very condescending arrogant poster, did you a do a 6 week course on vaccines or something?

    Drop the houlier than thou / smartest person in the room. You and I are most certainly not the cleverest people here, at least I’m self aware enough to know it, which incidentally makes me smarter than you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I know enough that the COVID vaccines don't change the body for the worse as that poster tries to imply, continually.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    The first ever vaccine with no side effects? Whilst also being the most fast tracked ever?

    can you answer my small sized brain one question? Why does the flu jab make up change every year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Yeah...none of those 'quotes' are attributable to me...but go ahead.

    Post edited by Penfailed on

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Sure, there's a vaccine thread if you want to dig into it (the flu vaccine changes every 6 months at least, often more often, depending on the dominant strains of influenza that are circulating in each hemisphere).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    Okay so you need a new vaccine for new variants, got it, makes sense I’ll go get another alpha themed Pfizer jab now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Only if there's vaccine escape (influenza is a highly mutagenic virus so the vaccine usually contains 3-4 different strains at once), SARS-COV2 has remained remarkably stable so far with original virus (pre-Alpha) vaccines remaining highly effective, likely due to the targeting of the spike protein.

    But as said, questions should be asked in the Vaccine megathread instead of here.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,432 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    @astrofool and @TalleyRand83 argue your points without the personal abuse if you wish to keep posting in this thread. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I really am curious as to what 2022 will hold for us.

    Same **** as usual it would seem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    Just ignore it as best you can. All the successful people who enjoy life I know are doing that as am I.

    I shouldn’t even look at these threads as some posters would swear we’re in the midst of the Black Plague…..ignore it and do minimum polite mask wearing, the best weapon any rational person has now to move on. It’ll be classed endemic before height of summer and then it’s cold / flu / covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Because the influenza virus mutates. Something a lot on here apparently did not surprisingly seem to know as they seem to believe they were promised that a single regime of a vaccine would give them sterilising immunity to a Covid virus that was known before vaccines were available, could, and had actually mutated.

    You could say that flu vaccine, which change practically yearly are even more fast tracked than the Covid vaccines were, but nobody has a problem with that for some strange reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83




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    “I know I am self aware, therefore I am smarter” and said without a hint of irony. Fuppin hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    This may come as a surprise to you but I didn't even know that thread existed. This thread is the only one in the Covid forum that I post in. There are only so many hours in the day and it can be difficult to keep up with this one thread nevermind trying to keep up with them all. There was one stage over Christmas that I was over twenty pages behind in here. I'm only speaking for myself but it's got nothing to do with my mindset that I didn't post in that thread and more to do with the fact that I've got a life to live outside of Boards.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    J&J gave me 9 hours in A & E and a myocarditis diagnosis.

    Thank you for telling me that didn't happen though, doctor. Was confused for a moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    And what’s worse is the Government are trying to sweep these injuries under the carpet, offer no medical exemption to the coerced Covid Cert & no redress scheme to those injured all the while the companies who made the product aren’t liable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭aziz


    I had the j&j as well,and no way will I take another



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I had moderna and tbh the worst I had was a swollen arm.

    Have to get my booster next week which just annoys the **** out of me as they are already coming out with the 4th dose story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I won't be taking a fourth no more than I take the annual flu vaccine. Simply put, I don't need it, don't get any benefit from it, and Omicron is little more than a mild cold for the vast majority of people.

    That's not to say that I think that it shouldn't be available to those who want it, but it need to become a voluntary thing like every other covid measure (including masks).

    We cannot let this country slide into a position where businesses are closed, people put out of work, told to stay away from others and wear masks every winter just because people get the sniffles and the HSE still can't manage the health service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The WHO and others are pushing back against the potential perpetual booster approach but we may see it here now for at risk groups. The onus is on vaccine manufacturers to come up with something longer lasting with wider protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭foxsake



    the side effects that some have suffered are not "for the worse"? a bold claim.

    Anyway you continually have misrepresented what i was said in that post - it's not worth discussing with you.

    Post below is spot on accurate.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Welcome to the vaccination and booster thread!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Regarding restrictions: if Nphet will give advice about lifting restrictions on january 20 prior to implementation on january 30 there will be very little time for case and especially hospitalisation numbers to drop as it is only 7 days away. I would guess they would like the restrictions to stay as they are even though numbers are likely to drop further from 20 to 30 january. The government could sell that as the advice given on which they base their decision. Watch that space!

    Oh, and can we talk some more about vaccinations and boosters please?! There is very little mention of those topics..😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    I take your point that there are separate vax/booster threads but their discussion is also related to the relaxation of restrictions since we were all sold on the promise that vaccines were the "the way out of this".

    Personally I can imagine the 8pm curfew being extended to 10pm with night clubs staying closed for the foreseeable, 'just in case'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I believe by law you don't have to disclose your vaccination status to your employer in Ireland, maybe I am wrong?

    With the new isolation rules regarding less days isolating with the booster, are people who need to stay out of work telling employers whether they are boosted or not by the number of days they need off?

    Which in effect is telling your employer whether you are vaccinated or not?

    I have not been in this situation but it was a thought i had, I could be completely wrong so happy to delete if I am wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Well yes, everything is related by x degrees of separation. But to talk about the efficacy/side effects alone has very little bearance on lifting restrictions and there are separate threads on those, wouldnt you agree?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,611 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    I think the first booster was probably needed, anything after that is flogging a dead horse.


    I think after this wave barring any nasty mutations COVID will become endemic to winter and only the at risk groups will be given annual boosters.



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