Married Men - A Gay Lads View - Have you ever had an experience?

Hah imagine my confusion when I realized one of the women I thought was one of the hottest in the Supergirl TV Series was actually born a man :)

But I get what you mean. Not only am I not attracted to men - I can not even vicariously work out why women are either. We are all horrific :) hehehehe.

I was gonna post a picture of us raising a glass on the forum on new years eve before I realised 1) Hell no I am as ugly as sin and have totally lost the battle against hair loss 2) I am not even sure what the site rules are on posting pictures of yerself anyway.

Now that is a porn movie that would be a hard one to sell to any market regardless of how they define themselves :)

Ok the first paragraph says nothing at all and does not even make an argument except to self grandiose towards posturing itself with throw away phrases that actually say nothing - so lets skip that one and move on to the second paragraph where there seems to be some actual substance rather than just pettiness.

I fail to see what is not coherent about the position I described? I cited the definitions upon which it is based. You - much like the time we previous had this conversation - do not do so. And in fact how you define words seems somewhat nebulous in general. I remember for example you were not sure you could call a man a "man" because he had sexual proclivities you did not share. And I am yet to see any definition of the word "man" that is even remotely related to such things. "Ballsology" indeed!

Whatever your position on the meaning of these words I have yet to see you post any actual citations or definitions to back it up. You might not like the definitions but as I said to the user I was replying to - that is fine. There is nothing wrong with us having our own definitions of words. But we should be honest and clear about deviations between them and the actual definitions.

But when you throw out a line like "She is the definition of bisexual" - which definition???? You have not offered one! You are making my exact point for me here which is that all the people moaning that people are not using the words defined right - appear to be percisely the people who are not offering a single definition to work with. I have done so - and there is no conflict between the definitions I offered and a lesbian who has or is having sex with a man.

All you are doing is presuming to speak on behalf of lesbians telling us what they would or would not feel or be capable of feeling or what thoughts would or would not arouse them. Which it seems to me you are hardly in a position to be doing. I will take their input on what they feel or are capable of feeling before I would take it from a sexually conservative middle to late aged straight man who is just projecting what he feels onto what he assumes others feel. Because that is all I can see in your post - a presumption to know what thoughts would have what effects in a person who is not you. I did not take the module "psychic" when I was in college. I somewhat suspect you did not either :) But if your entire position is based (as it appears in this post to be) on assuming to know what another person thinks or feels - I will stick to the citations and definitions of actual dictionaries myself thanks :)

Little in the last paragraph I take exception to. In does not negate or rebut or cause a problem for anything I have said. The two are in fact entirely congruent. Your question about the Asexual however I feel I have already answered with the definitions I have cited. That is - were I to seek to label such people I would do so based on enduring and typical attractions not single exceptions.

Now my inclusion would defy even Wibbs' claim that someone somewhere would buy any porno on offer :)

I am one of the ones who claim - often with women around me being skeptical - to not even be able to do that. I can look at a group of men around a table in a bar and have literally no idea which one the women are likely to deem the hottest of the bunch. Or if someone says a guy has punched "above his weight" and got some woman many levels hotter than him - I literally have to ask what they mean like "Ok why whats wrong with him?".

Now at the extremes - take brad pitt on one side and Johnny vegas at the other I can most likely call it. But in general I struggle to identify what women see in us at all :)