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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    53.9% of the population have boosters..

    It would be amazing to see if the people just said 'No More' at this stage- refused the booster until the pass was abolished.. turn it around to work on the peoples terms and not NHPETs.

    Only one can dream.. there are probably people running to get the boosters now as I type... blame the government all we want.. but people are jumping to the restrictions each and every time. So disheartening.

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Another reason I'm holding off on getting jabbed is to **** with their stats. Yeah, I'll get jabbed eventually for travel, but I ain't running to the jab factory just yet.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think that’s far too dodgy. Everytime you use it it’s like leaving your fingerprints at the scene of the crime. Your better off ordering a PCR test and getting a legitimate Pass based in this test or use a pass with someone else’s name on it and fake ID. At least that way it can’t be traced back to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Presumably, you're also leaving your actual fingerprints at these locations? (along with your phone location data and the multiple cameras that will be around on the premises and from other punters).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    You have to laugh really.


    €10,000 in additional debt for every man, woman and child in the country over the last 2 years - and that's on top of what was already a huge debt following the recession and you have lads like this loudly cheering the fact that we only had a €7bn deficit last year.


    Keep clapping son and someone will surly throw you a fish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,470 ✭✭✭MOH


    No room at the inn as she didn't have a booster vaccine cert?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    As I said, I completely agree with you that governments are using it as a diversionary tactic.

    We'll have to agree to disagree on the Novak stuff. I heard reps from both sides talking about it this morning and it's a complete mess. One group in Aus saying the exemption is fine, another saying it's not. Who the hell really knows anyone. The only thing we know for certain is he'll be on the next plane home.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,102 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    OK and I do see your points on the whole affair and too be fair, I can easily see how people will differ on the matter, I was honestly looking at it from a wink and nod point of view and didn't intend for us to be at at loggerheads 😏

    Upwards and onwards 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,609 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Michael Martin is on record saying he expects pubs & restaurants to require boosters only in the near future - so clearly the intention of government differs from yours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Haha, no worries at all.

    There was definitely a bit of nod and wink going on. The same way they let all those celebs in last year while Aussie citizens had to wait for weeks/months to reenter the country.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,102 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Remember poor Johnny Depp and now very very ex wife and the dog debacle , if there's one thing about Australians I like, they don't mess about 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,609 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    53.9% of the "eligible" population for boosters.

    People with 1 or no vax are not eligible for a booster. Neither are children I dont think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭pimpmyhat




  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Stating these are available is a valid part of discussion. Stating they ere "dodgy" is starting to add an element of credibility. It is illegal. End of. We do not allow anything that encourages illegal activity. It is against site rules to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    Booster dose safety

    An mRNA COVID-19 vaccine booster dose has been:

    • recommended by the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) in Ireland in people aged 16 and over 3 months after finishing a course of COVID-19 vaccines
    • licensed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) in people aged 18 and over 6 months after finishing a course of COVID-19 vaccine

    So the EMA only approve for over 18s! 🤔

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭choronzonix


    "It includes the results of a study in 123 schools in England which used masks and compared that to others that did not during the Delta wave of Covid. The UK is currently experiencing the spread of an even more infectious variant - Omicron - but there is not enough data yet on this one and masks.

    Schools where face coverings were used in October 2021 saw a reduction two to three weeks later in Covid absences from 5.3% to 3% - a drop of 2.3 percentage points.

    In schools which did not use face coverings absences fell from 5.3% to 3.6% - a fall of 1.7 percentage points.

    It said this was not statistically significant and the greater reduction in schools where masks were worn could be down to chance."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,609 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    A booster 3 months later? Cant wait for the 4th dose in 3 months time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    So what is the situation with people who have had covid recently and couldn't not get a PCR test? Based on the booster rules they have to wait 3 months post infection to get their booster but their vaccine pass will now be invalidated (based on what MM said yesterday) and they have no way of getting a recovery cert as they had no pcr test. I'm sure there are many in this situation, but I've seen no motion of how this will be handled?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Cloth and surgical masks were never effective in terms of reducing the spread of airborne viruses. They're effective in terms of behaviour control, because they are a constant nudge toward fear and away from "normal" that increases compliance with restrictions and lockdowns.

    Masks in schools were only ever to placate scared parents.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its ok that you dont understand economics. Really it is, you don't need to try to pretend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Yes, but not for international travel which countries can still police. EU wide rules over people's heads and control.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Yes this is a thing.

    Several friends have had 3 vaccines, cycles go off completely after each one.Regardless of whether they are on the pill or not. They have all ended up having a period 1 or 2 weeks after the last one, way out of cycle.

    TMI maybe but there ya go.At the age we are and the stage of life we are at, avoiding conception is the main aim, so it is annoying when you are trying to keep track of these things.I can understand that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    wtf is this sh1te that MM was sprouting, will we need a booster to go pub?!

    had delta in August (for me it was a mild flu for a day), got vaccinated, caught this omicron over xmas, literally a blcoked nose for 24 hours.

    i have zero interest in ever getting a booster against a what for me and every family member/friend over Xmas was a fooking cold, this is ridiculous.

    wasnt planning on getting a second recovery cert, but do i need to do that now or what? absolute farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    thats strange, my wife got her second shot back in July, says she hasnt had a period "for good few months"

    she has the coil and we put it down to that, maybe we were wrong...



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    @copeyhagen I didn't have any issues with mine either and my contraception stops my cycles altogether (loads of personal info here!!!). It could just be the coil.The people I know who had the issues were either on a pill or no hormonal contraception.But equally there were....5 or 6 people in total that mentioned it??(yes, many women talk about that stuff!) Not just a one off, put it that way.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's actually the number one side effect..

    (But we don't talk about those..nevermind)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    i know its getting very personal (and its my wife!)_ but she did have fairly regular for the 2 years prior after getting the coil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    IUDs can (and often do) stop menstruation, either immediately or after a few months. If she had the coil put in any time in the few months before she stopped getting periods then that wouldn't be considered abnormal at all and I doubt any doc would investigate on the basis of the vaccine (and in any case I don't believe there are any suggested interventions for vaccine-fucked menstrual cycles right now).

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Well this thread has taken a turn I would never have expected it to take. 😀



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