Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Utter idiocy, and still no criticism of the Great Barrington Declaration.

I hate to break this to you, but people can actually go to the site, read the articles themselves, and see that they're not "big on climate change denial". Just a bit more nuanced than wanting to give extinction rebellion the return to the dark ages that their death cult lusts after. Not that their articles on climate change are related in any way to the GBD and their

I'm also not going to feel any way about supporting anything based on the hyperventilating judgment of a left-wing extremist authoritarian on an internet forum. Sorry, not sorry.

You have piss poor reading comprehension and a knack for signalling virtue without any consideration for the consequences of your desires. Close all the sweat shops and **** the poor brown people who'll be left to starve. Lockdown everything and **** the collateral missed cancer diagnoses, increase ischemic events, mental health problems, addictions and deaths.

Bit of a pattern there.

India has 346 deaths per million population from covid, compared to Ireland's 1,186 deaths per million population.

LOL

"There is no rife stigmatisation in Irish society... here is some rank stigmatisation to prove it!"

You have to be a troll.

Watching the news there and they had a segment on hospitals being very busy etc. Exact same thing we've seen in the news every winter for as long as I can remember.

- people on trolleys,

- elective surgery cancelled,

- surge capacity,

- winter flu season etc.

We've seen this every year. But now it's acceptable government policy to close and restrict elements of our economy, we have teacher unions screaming for delay in school opening etc.

This from 2018 for example.

Unfortunately the India data isn't that trustworthy and is believed to undercount deaths and cases significantly (which means it can't really be used to prove things either way).

Even ourselves, data from the last 2 weeks will be unreliable due to the high positivity rate and lack of testing capacity.

Let us look at our own data there for a moment.

Due you think that the numbers we publish every day for almost 2 years are in any way accurate?

Our testing is totally random - but not in a statistically good way.

You have a bucket with people coming from GP referrals.

You have a bucket with people coming random from the street into test centre.

Another bucket has people looking to confirm their positive antigen test.

Another bucket of people who get periodically tested at work/uni/school.

And so on.

So every day you have a mixture of biased and unbiased data. On top of that throw in the constant up- and downscaling of testing. For a highly transmissive virus with an unknown but very high number of asymptomatic cases.

At no time did we know the true incidence. Just some number we call incidence but its really nothing resembling the meaning of the word. At no time did we know how many people had it on any given day. At no time did we know the percentage of people getting sick. At no time did we know the percentage of people dying. Hell 2 years into this and we still dont know how many are asymptomatic even. We know **** all. After 2 years.

Never mind 'knowing' what works or not in terms of restrictions.

The only conclusion that makes sense is we dont/didnt want to know. Cos the only other explanation would be that we are amateurish/stupid beyond belief.

And you're telling me here the last 2 weeks may be unreliable? 😀

It would be reliable enough until the testing capacity ran out (remember that the modelling has an estimate for actual cases based on positivity rate not the daily reported data), India data would be far more unreliable thus harder to make a conclusion with, whereas comparing European countries is more likely to give an accurate comparison. It will be interesting to see what gets marked as excess deaths for India in 2021 and how they break that out month on month, which may give a truer picture (I'm unfamiliar with how accurate this would be seen as normally).

Breaking it out monthly would do everything BUT give a more accurate picture. These monthly and in some cases weekly 'excess mortalities' are just attempts at bending the data to suit one's views.

Its like me saying my mortgage is €1200 a day. Which is true on the first Monday every month.

It doesn't do anything except give the tools to map it for proper analysis, by year would be dumb as it doesn't take into account when lockdowns and restrictions are enforced and then lifted (e.g. lockdown in Ireland caused lower than average deaths in 2020, but monthly analysis shows peaks in excess deaths for March-May when the pandemic started and then Jan-Feb of 2021 when we last tried to reduce restrictions in Wintertime).

lol

+ 1 🤣🤣

There's some Irony in what appears to be extraordinary absenteeism caused by self isolating requirements.

If government restrictions didn't curtail you, Self isolating rules will 🙄

But they don’t think of themselves as human. Demigods.

More worried about their image than the health of the nation.

Its also because of NPHET that the government are only talking about rolling out hepa filters in schools now, NPHET said they weren't needed. Tony probably told them washing their hands would be more effective.

I am far from being a hyperventilating left wing extremist authoritarian, but from your jumping through hoops on the GBD financed and promoted by the American Institute for Economic Research, a group from their "research" on sweatshops and their climate change denial where they state "There is no convincing scientific proof that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other hothouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth`s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth`s climate."I believe safe to describe AIER are a right wing libertarian well financed group affiliated to similar world wide. A description that would also seem to fit your views from your attempts at defending them.

Where have you not seen my criticism of the GBD. ?

I have shown where the financier and promotor`s "Senior Fellow" has published under their name such "scientific" facts that the spread of Covid declines to nearly zero after 70 days no matter where in the world it occurs, and declared that John Ioannidis immunity claims on immunity through infection had been confirmed as correct. Anybody capable of simple multiplication can see why that one has been totally debunked. I have also pointed out that the GBD was nothing other than the BS that herd immunity was achievable via infection where any that chased it failed to achieve it, not for the least of reasons being their own seroprevalence studies showed it was unachievable, and anywhere that believed they had achieved, it such as Amazonas (who actually based their belief on a seroprevalence report) and India were just kidding themselves.

Just in case you haven`t worked it out from what I have said, the GBD is a pot of piss financed and promoted by a very dodgy outfit with deep pockets in pursuit of their own agenda rather than anything for the benefit of mankind in general.