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War criminal Tony Blair to be given most senior knighthood in new year honours list



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 2,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Raichu

    honestly, who gives a f u c k.

    like it’s a meaningless title from the queen, if we’re lucky she’ll sneeze when placing the sword on his shoulders and give him a wee shave.

  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ Astartes

    He should be knighted into the feckin sea

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭ growleaves

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭ Working class heroes

  • Posts: 0 Sara Flaky Prism

    Shots fired and target obliterated, we have a winner

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭ nudain

    Couldn't picture a better man to parade about in this costume.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭ Tom Mann Centuria

    Its not the Royal PR office who decides, it's the government of the day who decides the gongs. Sheet of fag paper between them all though, establishment look after the establishment.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus

    No surprise, the UK is built on scheming and murder.

    More surprised because he's a catholic.

  • Registered Users Posts: 22,897 ✭✭✭✭ Dyr

    Yet you fail to see how they influenced your own opinion 🤣

  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 84,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Capt'n Midnight

    Technically speaking under UK law a life sentence means life and the only appeal possible is to the Home Secretary who can overrule it. Since Tony was the Home Secretary's boss there'd be no point and a trial would be a waste of taxpayers money.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭ Harryd225

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  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ mondeoman72

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,083 ✭✭✭✭ Princess Consuela Bananahammock

    I was talking in terms of being convicted and doing time as per the point I was responding too.

    Do NOT ask me how I define the terms "man", "woman", "male" or "female" when you reply to this post. You know the answer and it's probably irrelevant to the discussion :)

  • Not really, it comes down to there being no will to seek Blair or GW Bush to be punished for the actions with regards to Iraq, and their manipulation/lying to the international community.

    If the will was there, then a credible case could be brought against them for an "illegal" war, which ran counter to the UN declarations of the time, and the falsification of evidence to change the attitude of the UN. There's plenty of references to the use of weaponry that brought about "collateral damage", and the killing of civilians... but then, the US was never done for the firebombing of Japanese cities during WW2, with the clear targeting of civilians to weaken the enemy. Western propaganda is pretty good at elevating higher morality, while dismissing the more... dodgy actions while "fighting the good fight".

    Dunno about being righteous, but more to do with the abolishing of double standards. The US and other western nations have held other countries up to standards that they themselves are not prepared to abide by. Instead, when the west commits similar actions, it's swept under the carpet, while others get hit with sanctions or other punishments.

    It's kind hard to encourage other nations to behave within international guidelines/rules, when western nations are unprepared to do so themselves, except when it's convenient.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭ elperello

    Pretty basic rule of law- you can't legally be called a criminal unless you have been convicted by a lawfully convened jury of your peers.

    It's really a good principle on the whole.

    As an anonymous poster on Boards you'll probably get away with it.

    However, don't make a habit of it in public.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,897 ✭✭✭✭ Dyr

    The Americans always made it clear that they were going in for regime change. the UN were quietly told to go and **** themselves, just like they were in the former Yugoslavia where they enabled genocide with their fence sitting before the Yanks lost patience and NATO sorted it.