Will you be taking a booster?

Pawinho · 26-12-2021 10:55PM

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This tread is " will you be taking booster?" do you expect only booster takers will answer ?

Your contempt doesn't make you better, it's your weakness.

Stay strong.

27-12-2021 01:03AM

Got booster with Pfizer - mild reaction, nothing nasty - just sore arm and tired, which I assume was the vaccine actually working.

Alex86Eire · 27-12-2021 01:49AM

I had my pfizer booster at the beginning of the week. I had a bad rash of hives on my abdomen that kept getting bigger and spreading around my body. It was very uncomfortable. I had a lot of swelling of lymph nodes and the areas around my ears which affected my hearing.

I had absolutely no reaction to my previous two pfizer jabs so I was super surprised! I'm all fine now. At least the immune response means I know its working I guess!

Padre_Pio · 27-12-2021 02:05AM

Got Moderna.

Two nights of poor sleep and a sore arm.

Honestly I didn't think twice about getting it.

My brother and friend both got COVID and are in bits despite both being vaccinated.

If a few bad nights save me a week of pain then I don't care. I'd say Omicron has guaranteed that most people with get COVID in the next few months.

Richard Hillman · 27-12-2021 02:47AM

Get the booster and feel **** for a couple of days.

Get the virus and feel **** for a couple of days.

I never got the flu vaccine because of the chance that I could feel like crap and may have to miss a day or so of work.

Obviously this isn't the case for older people. It's important for them to be topped up. But really, under 50ish, in good health, what's the purpose of it?

Lumen · 27-12-2021 07:36AM

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The vaccine is not contagious, that's the difference.

27-12-2021 09:52AM

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Having a weakness or not has nothing to do with anything. I am listening to the advice from medical experts about medicine, you are not. Trying to make this philosophical is nothing but cringey.

Wibbs · 27-12-2021 10:13AM

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The vaccines were and remain a fantastic positive as they are the single best prophylactic against serious illness and death and by a huge margin and have saved countless lives, but given 93% of Irish adults have been vaccinated and 50% are boosted and it's still flying through the population at a fair lick and a fair number of the vaccinated and boosted are still symptomatic it's not doing a great job of stopping contagion. Yes they reduce it, which is good, but it's pretty clear not by much and they're extremely leaky particularly with the omicron variant being far more infectious so the contagion aspect is a good way down the list of positives.

At this point going by my friends and family and even work circles(all but two of whom are vaccinated and most are boosted too) they've either got it themselves or are close to someone who has and most are in the former group.

If someone isn't vaccinated at this stage then do so FFS, but boosters for those who aren't in the vulnerable demographics? Not really seeing the point tbh.

Lumen · 27-12-2021 10:43AM

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It remains the case that being recently vaccinated or infected gives you better protection against infection than not, but one of those choices (if they are choices) is likely to negatively affect others.

Several people I know have had Christmases severely disrupted by COVID. Whilst there's a lot of aggressive "it's just a cold, stop hiding under the duvet" commentary online, when push comes to shove most people don't want to infect their elderly relatives over Christmas, regardless of their vaccination status.

Wibbs · 27-12-2021 11:01AM

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Unless they're singular outliers their elderly relatives are almost certainly already vaccinated and boosted. They've already got their protection against infection unless the vaccines and boosters are seriously below par in reality. They very much have protection againts serious illness and death. That's the main thing by a country mile. And their non elderly relatives are also almost certainly vaccinated and over half of them are boosted. If so many are having Christmas severly disrupted by covid/omricon - and it seems they are as I've a very similar personal experience to yours - with 93% of the adults population vaccinated and over 50% boosted it strongly suggests protection against contagion is pretty shíte, boosted or no.

These vaccines are life savers, but they were always leaky. They reduced transmission, but not nearly enough to be able to ringfence outbreaks. This was far less a problem with Alpha and Delta which was harder to spread and catch. Now add in omricon which is significantly more contagious but thankfully much milder, in real terms it doesn't seem to really matter if you're only infectious for two days versus four. You are going to be exposed to this variant.

Lumen · 27-12-2021 11:05AM

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It's anecdotal, but most of the COVID positive people I'm referring to are under 40 and not boosted.

It's unfortunate with hindsight that the booster campaign didn't start a couple of weeks earlier, but as usual NIAC were being super cautious.

The Royal Scam · 27-12-2021 11:16AM

Had Pfizer booster on 23rd. Felt a tiny bit off sorts but now starting to have mild pain under my arm I got it in but also dull ache in both my calves. Can't put it down to anything but the booster. Would still take the 4th when required without question.

27-12-2021 11:21AM

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Thanks for this. I’m an anti-vaxxer, but we have to stop pretending that everyone on our team is doing good for the cause. If you are not willing to to get you body and immune system in shape then f** off to the other side and take the vaccines. Life is hard enough already without you (your mate’s Dad) dragging us down...

Wibbs · 27-12-2021 11:22AM

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Going on my anecdotal stuff excluding their kids, the covid positives and symptomatic are over 40 and all(but 2) vaccinated and most are boosted(and one guy who got such a bad reaction from his first jab, he never got any more). The only two I know who have been definitely exposed and more than once, possibly positive* but not symptomatic are me and one other guy, vaccinated but not boosted. Though maybe this posited "super immunity" is in play there. We're the only ones who had confirmed covid early this year and then got vaccinated in late summer, him with pfizer me with J&J.

However beyond the anecdotal, positive tests are going through the roof with omricon. And these are symptomatic people in the majority of cases and going by the stats the majority will have been vaccinated and a large percentage of them will have had boosters on top.

*I've had a few postives in antigen tests, but all my PCR's came back negative, so feck knows. No symptoms, beyond a thumping headache the saturday before last when I tested antigen positive, but it was gone by sunday and by Tuesday my PCR said nope.

Lumen · 27-12-2021 11:30AM

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Ok, well since our anecdotes disagree we can look at statistics.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-covid19/covid-19informationhub/health/covid-19deathsandcasesstatistics/

COVID incidence decreasing in older age groups since the booster campaign started, plus primary school kids since masks were introduced.

At least that's what I see. For the sake of clarity, are you denying that boosters reduce incidence?

Large bottle small glass · 27-12-2021 11:32AM

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Maybe not as the first to get it would now have reduced immunity from picking up the infection when transmission is now bananas

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Lumen · 27-12-2021 11:48AM

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Sure, it's arguable whether the effects on incidence are large or small, but not whether they exist at all.

Wibbs · 27-12-2021 12:00PM

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At least that's what I see. For the sake of clarity, are you denying that boosters reduce incidence?

Not at all, but my feeling is not by that much. And at this stage with omricon in full flow in the population - and a population that's one of the most vaccinated and boosted in the EU - the water is filling the boat faster than we can hope to bail.

However I don't see that as a bad thing necessarily. If omricon is as mild as it looks and the vast majority of the vulnerable are protected from serious illness and death, omricon will "vaccinate" the population worldwide soon enough. And if the research into super immunity coming from having caught covid on top of being vaccinated plays out this omricon variant could be the very thing that takes us out of this pandemic.

Cluedo Monopoly · 27-12-2021 12:06PM

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My brother got Covid on 22nd and said he felt way worse after the 2nd vaccine which floored him for 3 days. He is delighted to have got natural immunity because he reckons he was close to getting a booster text (mid 40s).

Omicron gave him a headache and a sore throat and that was it. I know several people that have reported very mild symptoms. Hopefully its the end game.

Cluedo Monopoly · 27-12-2021 12:11PM

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Wibbs, have you a link to articles talking about super immunity for Vaccine+Natural? I'd love to read more about this. We will soon be having Omicron Pox parties the way things are going. Omicron does sound very mild.

Wibbs · 27-12-2021 12:17PM

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Here's one Cluedo. It's also been found that those who recovered from SARS a decade ago who were then vaccinated against this pox also showed the same super immunity. I wouldn't be having pox parties yet mind you... Plus we don't know if catching covid first and then getting vaccinated works the same as the other way around. But the overall research looks hopeful.

nigeldaniel · 27-12-2021 12:59PM

I do not think I will go for any more jabs. I had the main 2 and the booster last Monday and now today am still dealing with the side effects, which are literally a royal pain in the rear end. I would not mind but un until now I have been very pro-vaccine.

Cluedo Monopoly · 27-12-2021 01:22PM

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I am hearing the same from a lot of friends and relatives.

loveall · 27-12-2021 01:39PM

Myself and hubby got the booster on Xmas eve. Him moderna and me pfizer. He's had no reaction at all and I had an annoying arm for a day. We don't feel we have any choice as I'm due a hospital stay next week. But....if the hospital should cancel when we've played our part we're going to feel very differently. One way or another I feel they'll get their numbers.

bmc58 · 27-12-2021 01:48PM

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Got my two jabs and the booster plus the flu jab.And if a fourth jab is needed for Covid or another varient I'll get that also.

Large bottle small glass · 27-12-2021 01:51PM

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I'm pretty pro vaccinations in general but think public health authorities may have done a lot of harm (by pushing boosters to low risk groups) to vaccination policys in general.

There was next to no good science that they were necessary for anyone other than high risk groups, are for those groups there will be more boosters.

What saved us from higher deaths and misery was the power of rational thought and the application of the scientific method.

This push on boosters might give oxygen to anti vaxers(and they don't need much) and grow their number which isn't going to be helpful in the long run for vaccines in general

Bellie1 · 27-12-2021 02:12PM

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Had same, pain under arm .I couldnt feel swollen lymph glands so was strange. Anyway all is fine now, I was boosted a week before you and maybe lasted a week max

SuperBowserWorld · 27-12-2021 02:36PM

Got Moderna booster today after 2 Pfizer vaccines. Had no issues with Pfizer. Hopefully ok after Moderna.

Was in two minds about it all. Could have waited until mid January for a Pfizer one. But according to the recommendations mixing shouldn't matter or may indeed improve the immune response.

Also, hopefully preventing myself from getting too sick and doing my little bit to help prevent spread to others.

Still, I wonder about the long term safety of these new vaccines and how long can we keep vaccinating entire populations like this.

ShayNanigan · 27-12-2021 03:48PM

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I'm pretty much fine now! I'd say the big time side effects started to kick in about 24 hours after the jab. I only had some soreness on the injection site for the first few hours and the next phase hit me early on Friday morning when I woke up in pain because my armpit was aching and had some pretty nasty muscle pains too. The fever hit me on Friday evening (and it did get close to 38 degrees) and when I woke up on Saturday morning, I still had a temp of slightly over 37 (to me that feels like fever, my normal temperature is around 36.5).

During the day I started to feel much better and on Sunday my only symptom was basically the swollen armpit. It was pretty annoying, basically had no armpit to speak of. It was sore and washing the area was pretty weird, there was like this big lump of fluid under the skin roughly the size of an apple. I figured it's best to try to move as normal as possible and stop being too careful with the arm. That worked because today the swelling has gone down almost completely and it's not sore anymore. Pretty annoying but it seems since the second Covid jab, all vaccines have been causing this reaction in various degrees.

From what I hear, many of my friends who had Moderna as booster have been pretty sick for a couple of days afterwards, more than they expected. But super glad to see it all went away fairly fast. I might though wait a while longer for the next jab if they offer it. Actually, if they offer the same stuff again, I'd rather just wait for a completely new kind of vaccine that is more targeted towards new variants. I'd also be interested in taking a blood test before the next vaccine to see how much antibodies I have at the moment but not sure if that's possible in Ireland.

So, a word of warning to people who will get the Moderna booster: be prepared to be feeling the after effects for about three days. The worst seems to kick in after 24 hours but luckily the worst only lasts for less than a day.

27-12-2021 04:42PM

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Likewise. Ask me when Pfizer have completed and reported the results of the current ongoing clinical trials for their product. to be complete May 2023.

Till then, have signed up to an international mRNA unjabbed scientific control group.

Will you be taking a booster?

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