Asian immigrant condemns Irish gay society in British press as systemically racist

joseywhales · 26-12-2021 1:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118374083#Comment_118374083

Ah I predictably married a white woman but I like to imagine I was open to anything, I certainly dated all and sundry. Really though there probably was some unconscious bias when it came to a serious relationship.

retalivity · 26-12-2021 1:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118373778#Comment_118373778

I used to work in the same office as this guy a few years back, he was perpetually offended.

John Doe1 · 26-12-2021 7:28pm

Racism is called out so easily these days that the meaning has been lost.

Apparently racism is now a guy not getting his end away enough. Give me strength.

26-12-2021 7:34pm

Dont think ive ever seen a thread title with such a bang of desperation off it that nonetheless still boils down to "person thinks something", which is not really worth a thread at all really is it now

Hamachi · 26-12-2021 11:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118375469#Comment_118375469

And he’s fully entitled to that thought process...

As long as taxpayers money is not being used to propagate his nonsense.

26-12-2021 11:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118375469#Comment_118375469

And yet, there's two pages of opinions on the thread. As opposed to other threads that get closed down with only one or two comments.

TBH I never really understand why posters feel the need to pass judgement on a thread topic/title itself. If you're not interested in the thread, move on to something else... and withhold the judgement entirely... no?

27-12-2021 3:57am

No

At least, "no" for any reason that wouldn't hold equally true for you commenting on my comment

But also generally, threads with a rubbish clickbaity title and/or premise are always fair game for drive-by scorn on that basis, proliferation of daily shite like it is one of the problems with the site and why not poke fun at the worst examples when one comes across them.

If it had been posted on a serious board maybe not but i think we all know why it wasnt so thats moot.

humberklog · 27-12-2021 12:56pm

Friends of mine whouse Grinder often pick up Asian men. Buy, mostly, they go for Asians who eat crickets rather than play cricket. If you know what I mean.

JupiterKid · 27-12-2021 3:35pm

This alleged racism by what I can only see as an aggrieved, bitter and sad person with a humongous victim complex is utterly disingenuous and an attack on gay white Irish men by a very damaged individual.

I can tell you (anecdotally) that same-sex couples are much more likely to be interracial than their straight counterparts. It may be possible to glean some hard data from the forthcoming Census 2022 that records co-habiting and married same-sex couples and their ethnicity.

Gay couples are also much more likely to have a significant age difference between each partner as well. As a formerly oppressed and persecuted minority ourselves, the last thing we need is an unfounded allegation of systemic racism by an angry and damaged person.

I know three interracial gay male couples in Dublin (one married, the others long-term partners) and if there are issues, it is that the non-white partner comes from an extremely homophobic background where their own families and society have completely shunned them for being gay. Some indeed have had their lives threatened and had to flee their countries of origin.

That piece by Pradeep is pathetic, angry and baseless rant by a very unbalanced person who clearly has an axe to grind about the Irish gay male community. As others opined here, his blanket accusations against white Irish gay men are themselves actually racist in nature - but I can imagine that the irony is completely lost on him. 😏🤨🙄

Finally, Pink News is a shadow of its former self - years ago it had some good articles on issues pertinent to the LGBT community. These days it’s largely rubbish all filled with clickbait, opinion pieces, rants and guff about celebrities that are LGBT or are popular with LGBT.

27-12-2021 4:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378018#Comment_118378018

As a matter of interest, do the inter racial same sex couples you know have a more relaxed attitude towards monogamy than heterosexual couples?

I mean, a place like the boiler house is essentially a brothel which would not be societally accepted if catering for heterosexuals

TomTomTim · 27-12-2021 4:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118373530#Comment_118373530

Our government funds the likes of Irish Human Rights & Equality Commission too, who use our money to advertise videos on Twitter, about how racist the Irish are. We're literally forced by law to pay to be abused in this ridiculous country.

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 5:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378018#Comment_118378018

Thanks for the insider view, so to speak. What’s your rationale for suggesting that gay couples are more likely to be interracial? Is it because gay people are such a small minority (2%-3%), that they don’t have the luxury of being as discerning as say heterosexual women?

Re-reading the article, I see that he was also whining about members of the LGBT running group, of which he is a member. Apparently, they shunned him when they crossed paths in gay venues. Pradeep attributes this to them being ashamed to be seen interacting with non-white people in public. Reading between the lines, it’s likely that they simply see him as a head melt and didn’t want to be around him any more than is absolutely necessary.

berocca2016 · 27-12-2021 6:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378342#Comment_118378342

I think gay people genuinely see race as less of an issue than the heteronormative population, hence more mixed race couples 💑.

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 6:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378530#Comment_118378530

I find that hard to believe to be honest.

berocca2016 · 27-12-2021 6:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378567#Comment_118378567

Why do you find that ?

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 6:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378591#Comment_118378591

In my view, the general distribution of attitudes towards race across the general population, likely hold true for the gay community. The only thing that differentiates gay people from the majority population is same sex attraction. There is no intrinsic reason why Irish gay people are uniquely well disposed to those of other races.

That’s why it makes zero sense for this NGO to specifically target the gay community. The broader attitudes (positive & negative) towards race that prevail in Ireland are almost certainly replicated in the gay community. If this NGO believes that there is an issue with racism in this country, they should be targeting the entire society and not narrowing their aperture to the tiny subset comprised by the gay community.

27-12-2021 7:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378134#Comment_118378134

You are human.And have rights too you know. That's why they exist.

Maybe you should look up their.website and see.What they do 🙄

I think the gay community are more open minded then the general public, so maybe that's why there are more interracial couples (that's a big generalisation obviously)

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 7:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378701#Comment_118378701

Firstly, there’s no data confirming that the prevalence of interracial relationships is higher in the gay community. As JupiterKid pointed out, this may emerge in the 2022 census. Until this information is released, this statement is based on precisely nothing.

You’re the second person to claim that gay people are uniquely open minded and well disposed to other races. What’s this assertion based on? Your feelings?

berocca2016 · 27-12-2021 7:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378845#Comment_118378845

Anecdotal evidence amongst my peers? God no need to be so narky about it.

The LGBT community is a minority who have been disenfranchised historically, thus would be less likely to disenfranchise a minority within a minority.

ohnonotgmail · 27-12-2021 8:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118367772#Comment_118367772

some people like short people, some like tall, some like chubby people, some like people of a different colour. such is the way of the world. if all you are interested in is sex then deal with it.

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 8:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378871#Comment_118378871

I’m not being narky. I’m probing your argument to learn more. Call it intellectual curiosity.

So your hypothesis is that historically disenfranchised minorities are less likely to be discriminatory due to their own experiences, right?

Following that line of argument the travelling community and the Muslim population should feel a sense of solidarity with and display an attitude of egalitarianism towards the gay community. The common experience of being disenfranchised negates any tendency to discriminate?

Perhaps not..

berocca2016 · 27-12-2021 9:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378969#Comment_118378969

Your argument is basically whataboutery....

Basically I don't think there is a particular problem with racism in the LGBT community, anecdotally I have no straight mates in mixed raced relationships, but a fair few gay mates who are. If you want to commission a longitudinal study to check this, you are more than welcome.

JupiterKid · 27-12-2021 11:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118378633#Comment_118378633

Nailed it. 👍👍👍 This is exactly why such an initiative is both an insult and a waste of taxpayer’s hard earned money. I’d love to know how many “initiatives” by NGOs and, govt agencies and Quangos are providing solid results - and value for money.

That said, I do think Irish LGBT people are generally more open minded to mixed race relationships as being a minority that has also faced discrimination and oppression in the past as people of other races.

Hamachi · 27-12-2021 11:30pm

Thanks Jupiter, 100% agree on the motives of this NGO.

Like I said to that other poster, I’m not sure I totally buy into statement that LGBT people are more open to mixed race relationships. My job is a data scientist and I only tend to trust hard numbers. I’m not fully convinced by anecdotes about somebody’s ‘mates’. Having said that, I’m not plugged into the gay community and trust your instincts as an always thoughtful and rational poster. Cheers.

AllForIt · 28-12-2021 12:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118376873#Comment_118376873

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118375469#Comment_118375469

So you have an issue with the thread title which is factually correct.

Your complaints are about the thread, but you said noting on the issue itself. Odd.

Dare I suggest that your comments are really motivated by agreeing with the NGO campaign, but your're too afraid to say it so you just criticize the thread as 'clickbaity' instead.

FYI, I'm livid about this. This is me Padreep and the NGO are criticizing. How on earth do you expect me to just ignore it. How about if the campaign was targeted at you, what would you do then?

What I sense from some people on this issue, including yourself, is 'well if it's about anti-racism' then that's a good thing, one mustn't make a fuss'.

NO

I am going to make a fuss because I'm not going to tolerate this nonsense, and if that's not okay with you, tough.

Asian immigrant condemns Irish gay society in British press as systemically racist

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