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Asian immigrant condemns Irish gay society in British press as systemically racist



  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭ SamStonesArm

    Yeah Ive met a fair few men haters over the years myself. Me mammy says Im well handsome and all :(

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭ fritzelly

    Probably many but they're all racist so it doesn't count

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,929 ✭✭✭✭ Ads by Google

    This guy has just run into any nation's inherent tendency to be cliquey, and the typical Irish cynicism of anyone who dates an Asian person, and it's exacerbated by trying to make a community largely based around sexuality and dating his main community.

  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭ Dr Fred

    Yes but do you think the gays are being unfairly singled out?

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Why is this guy 'platformed' so much? The Proud AF campaign he's involved in is government funded. The government are promoting this stuff. Yet everyone is focusing on Pradeep's opinion, an opinion he probably didn't even form on his own.

    The quote about “I realised long back that whiteness is the currency that holds a considerable advantage." he probably realized that after reading the work of Emily Drew, (Whiteness as Currency: Rethinking the Exchange Rate) in the book 'Living with Class: Philosophical Reflections on Identity and Material Culture' or at least someone who had read that book relayed this information to him. Nearly every other quote in that article was repeating some sort of intersectional mantra.

    The Proud AF campaign even admit to what they are doing:

    Genuinely empowering people of queer colour and queer Travellers means:

    platforming their presence

    creating and promoting safe spaces

    listening to their experiences

    sharing knowledge and creating cultural competence 

    not regarding these individuals as secondary to the rest of the community

    actively involving them in community groups

    respecting cultural and lived differences.

    To empower these people they need to "share the knowledge, create cultural competance and platform". To me this sounds like "use as a puppet doll".

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  • Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭ Luxembourgo

    Maybe this is his pitch for funding to do just that...

  • Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭ yerwanthere123

    The chap in question really isn't helping himself with that awful moustache of his. Bloody hell 😳

  • The quote about “I realised long back that whiteness is the currency that holds a considerable advantage." he probably realized that after reading the work of Emily Drew, (Whiteness as Currency: Rethinking the Exchange Rate) in the book 'Living with Class: Philosophical Reflections on Identity and Material Culture' or at least someone who had read that book relayed this information to him. Nearly every other quote in that article was repeating some sort of intersectional mantra.

    Well, to be fair, anyone who has spent any amount of time in Asia will know this to be true, and while it's declined considerably over the last decade, in the past, White people are/were elevated beyond everyone else, in many situations. However, that elevation came from Asian people themselves. So, in many cases, there was an unfair advantage for white people (and foreigners to a less extent), but it wasn't coming/created by White people. Most Asians would be aware of this... and you'd easily find many Asian guys bitter over the elevated place that White guys have in meeting women (the same exists for White women, but Asian women don't seem to be all that bothered by it)

    I see this article as being a screaming tantrum about how unfair the world is, and deciding to blame one or two sections for it.. because it's convenient to do so. Its the dismissing of personal responsibility for his own choices, behavior, etc, and instead passing the buck on to others. Haven't read the book you referred to, but I suspect it's more of the same. In order to play the victim, there has to be the bully out there, whether it's real or imagined.

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Pawwed Rig

    Funnily enough all of the mixed race couples I know are Irish men with a foreign wife bar 1. Never foreign men.

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  • Whereas the few mixed race couples I know are all Black guys (African or foreign Westerners) with Irish women. The only mixed couples I know with Irish guys are with Asian women, or with Eastern Europeans. Don't know any gay couples anymore in Ireland, all those I know are single/dating.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,929 ✭✭✭✭ Ads by Google

    Yes. I think it has fek all to do with the gay community.

  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭ berocca2016

    I can remember this thread coming up in the LGBT forum, and my point still stands (as a gay man), gay men are often shallow, but I wouldn't say its fair that they would in general discriminate against race, like a hot Indian would get as much D as a hot Irish lad.

    Not to take away from anyone's experience of racism. As a cisgendered white man, I may not understand but I know that as a balloon in college I never pulled in the George but once I gained a triangular torso the world (and its men) were my oyster.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭ fritzelly

    Didn't realise this guy is on a crusade - gay men are shallow and will cut you down in a heartbeat, he is just too precious to have that done to him

    If he is so enraged by it maybe he should start with the rampant abuse and violence in his home country rather than a very liberal and accepting country like Ireland

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    The elevation in my opinion wasn’t for white people but western people. They were known to cheat far less on their partners and generally be more wealthy, especially when seen in Asia. As you said this has changed recently as the Asian countries have become richer and culture has changed. Success rates (relationships, marriages) were far higher with Western men and Asian women then the other way.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,889 ✭✭✭✭ B.A._Baracus

    Don't know why this thread is a thing. Just one worlds view according to one man. Sure, none of us here know the chap. Could be an oddball for all we know.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,929 ✭✭✭✭ Ads by Google

    Honestly, the vast majority of Asian men are totally and utterly incompatible with Western men and women. That's a pretty big blanket statement but if they aren't Westernised, it's true. Asian women on the other hand are very compatible with Western men and our way of doing relationships is extremely desirable.

    So maybe this guy has a point. Maybe Irish men do recognise this and don't want to be the male version of an Asian wife.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,562 ✭✭✭ joseywhales

    I mean you've got to try them all right? Variety is the spice of life. I honestly don't have a preference, apart from physical fitness and a good sense of humour. I think people only imagine that they have a type on some superficial level.

  • Maybe that's true when you're younger, but as you get older you gain strong preferences for certain.. looks. In addition to the personality, and other considerations, that you know just "work" based on your experiences.

    Culture plays a huge part with this and traditional gender roles. However, in Asia, I know many western women who have married Chinese guys, and thinking back, they're more likely to stay together in the long term. Most of the Western guys I know who married their Asian girlfriends have gotten divorced within two decades (for all manner of reasons).

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,562 ✭✭✭ joseywhales

    Ah I predictably married a white woman but I like to imagine I was open to anything, I certainly dated all and sundry. Really though there probably was some unconscious bias when it came to a serious relationship.

  • Posts: 0 Will Quick Dollar

    Dont think ive ever seen a thread title with such a bang of desperation off it that nonetheless still boils down to "person thinks something", which is not really worth a thread at all really is it now

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭ Hamachi

    And he’s fully entitled to that thought process...

    As long as taxpayers money is not being used to propagate his nonsense.

  • And yet, there's two pages of opinions on the thread. As opposed to other threads that get closed down with only one or two comments.

    TBH I never really understand why posters feel the need to pass judgement on a thread topic/title itself. If you're not interested in the thread, move on to something else... and withhold the judgement entirely... no?

  • Posts: 0 Will Quick Dollar


    At least, "no" for any reason that wouldn't hold equally true for you commenting on my comment

    But also generally, threads with a rubbish clickbaity title and/or premise are always fair game for drive-by scorn on that basis, proliferation of daily shite like it is one of the problems with the site and why not poke fun at the worst examples when one comes across them.

    If it had been posted on a serious board maybe not but i think we all know why it wasnt so thats moot.

  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 9,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭ humberklog

    Friends of mine whouse Grinder often pick up Asian men. Buy, mostly, they go for Asians who eat crickets rather than play cricket. If you know what I mean.

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  • Posts: 0 Andy Melodic Rig

    As a matter of interest, do the inter racial same sex couples you know have a more relaxed attitude towards monogamy than heterosexual couples?

    I mean, a place like the boiler house is essentially a brothel which would not be societally accepted if catering for heterosexuals