ESRI confirms Irish welfare dependent population is TWICE that of Germany or France

Here's another example.

In the middle of a housing crisis, with labour shortages in construction, there are the following numbers of people on the Live Register, classified by last held occupation:

22,276 craft and related

20,200 plant and machine operatives

I struggle to understand how there are over 42,000 of these workers on the Live Register.

Surely with these skills they could find work easily enough?

At the end of the day.

No one ever can say unemployed able bodied people should get a new house paying 40 euro a week when working people have to pay 2000 a month rent next door to each other.

Its the simple. Nothing more to add.

Homelessness in this country is a scam and finally people are waking up to it.

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It has to be realised that there is an issue out there, where there are people who simply do not want a job, not everyone is like that, but there are people out there that even if you gave them a job wouldn't be able to keep it, because they just do not want it.

The safety net quite literally needs to be cut out from under these people.

As it stands we have a single tier welfare system, albeit with JSA & JSB but at the same rates, which quite frankly is ludicrous, reform to the system is necessary and long overdue, there is no way that it is fair or equitable that those that have never contributed can avail of the exact same rate as someone who has worked their entire lives.

Making changes like the above would make employment the more attractive option.

I am not advocating a zero payment, but I would see a rate of perhaps 50% of the current max rate for the non contributory with the contributory being based on a percentage of previous earnings on a sliding scale to give a soft landing, time to get matters in order / find a new job, the time for the soft landing / transition would be based on the number of PRSI contributions paid whilst working.

Sweet Jesus, I get your new to Boards but surely aware of the Mother and Baby scandal, Cop on and try to educate yourself, appalling comment

Whilst not at all surprised this appalling thread grew legs it's astonishing few appeared to have actually read the report being used to justify this Bile.

From accusations of people being inbred to suggestions of forced removal of children, have people no shame.

The report deals with income inequality, does not seperate types of welfare supports, such as disibility, illness, FIS etc.

There are some who seem to think unemployment welfare, supports 40% of the population when it's abundantly clear actual unemployment is around 5%

Equally people seem to think the DEASP just throws out money with few questions asked, it's complete and utter nonsense. Not only are eligible checks done but various departments share data, further to this more and more reviews are taking place to include disibility allowances and indeed non contributary pensions both of which are subject to means testing, even after being awarded.

The impression being given is money just handed out with no accountability.

Of course there are abuses, of course there are very long term employed but anyone who thinks DEASP don't react are deluded, there are numerous and rigourous job activation programs (admitidly some dreadful) but not all.

This is not the 1980's folks, look at the actual Data, not a generalised study done that does not actually focus on actual unemployment but welfare supports generally that includes benefits that have nothing to do with unemployment and perhaps have more to do with our health service or lack of same 🙄

I'm all for coherent debate and discussion but when it's clear what the motivations are behind a Thread (and that's very clear here), it needs to be called out.

If you bothered to actually understand that actual report being used to justify this nonsense or indeed actually checked some facts you might be a little more objective.

When exactly is blatant Racism, outrageous inbred comments, disgusting suggestions about forced removal of children become acceptable in any discussion.

I make no apologies and will continue to wear my monical and call out offensive BS when I see it, your free to have your opinion as am I, how dare you lecture me or any other poster who's opinion differs from yours.

This Thread is up there when it comes to some of the most vile comments I've seen on Boards.

jesus, are you really this ignorant!

Given that article is from 2018, it raises the question as to whether it needs updating.

Why aren't food vouchers brought in here. How much of the dole money is spend on essentials i.e food and clothing. Is children's allowance actually put towards the children in a lot of cases?

holidays have obviously started early for some on boards, tis gonna be a long one!

From the bloke who tells us "Leftists have always despised the middle class....". You're hilarious, Maxx, complete absence of any self-awareness.

And yet, nothing is coming through in the regular opinion polls or similar. Looks like a small number of people are falling for 'divide and conquer' tactics. What's the old story about the rich bloke who sits down at the table, snaffs nine of the ten biscuits, then leans over and says 'that guy on welfare wants to take your last biscuit'.

As others have already pointed out, you don't automatically get DA after your GP signs off. DSP have their own doctors to carry out stringent assessments, people with no local connections at all at all.

Where did you get that data about disability benefit among travellers?

so its really true then, welfare for singletons truly isnt enough, well said!