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Mira Elite QT Shower

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rew0505


    Can someone recommend a place/shop where those Mira Elite QT elbows could be sourced these days.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rew0505


    Question for Sleeper12 or anyone with knowledge of Mira Elite qt shower: as you have been replacing so many of those faulty elite qt motor pumps, have you find out what was a problem with a motor? Usually this type of motor will see couple sets of brushes before it put in rest, is it any particular part of a motor that causes all problems? Have you ever try to recondition those motors?
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rew0505


    Question for Sleeper12 or anyone with knowledge of Mira Elite qt shower: as you have been replacing so many of those faulty elite qt motor pumps, have you find out what was a problem with a motor? Usually this type of motor will see couple sets of brushes before it put in rest, is it any particular part of a motor that causes all problems? Have you ever try to recondition those motors?
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Rew0505 wrote: »
    Question for Sleeper12 or anyone with knowledge of Mira Elite qt shower: as you have been replacing so many of those faulty elite qt motor pumps, have you find out what was a problem with a motor? Usually this type of motor will see couple sets of brushes before it put in rest, is it any particular part of a motor that causes all problems? Have you ever try to recondition those motors?
    Thanks.




    Judging by the screaming of the motors I'd guess it's the bearings that fail. Problem is we had this issue with brand new QT showers out of the box. I don't recondition motors.



    We actually replaced very few of these motors. New motor is over 200 euro supplied & fitted. New shower is 335 supplied & fitted. Rule of thumb: if repairs cost more than half the cost of replacing the appliance then new shower is the better option. This applies even to a two year old shower just out of warranty. With this in mind we replaced hundreds of Mira Elite QT showers in the last five years or so but no more than five or six motors.


    On the QT shower I suggest if repair is more than 100 then it's best to replace the whole shower with a triton T90SR


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Just a quick update on our one: called the guy who fixed it six weeks ago and he came around yesterday. He replaced our QT with a new SE and gave us a two year warranty. Happy for another while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Just a quick update on our one: called the guy who fixed it six weeks ago and he came around yesterday. He replaced our QT with a new SR and gave us a two year warranty. Happy for another while.


    When I read this first I thought this guy replaced the shower free of charge. Reading it again I think I was mistaken. The warranty will be with Triton rather than the installer but Triton are good with their warranty.
    Hopefully you will get many years trouble free with this shower


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sorry its a Mira Elite SE, not SR. My bad.
    It was replaced free of charge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Sorry its a Mira Elite SE, not SR. My bad. It was replaced free of charge


    Fair play to the installer so. Most would just walk away & tell you it's Miras problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭glog


    I need to get a new Hose and Clamp bracket for my Mira Elite QT.
    Does anyone know if spurious parts are available at a reasonable cost?

    Cost of original parts is €40 plus shipping - was hoping to spend around half of that or am I deluded?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Rew0505


    glog wrote: »
    I need to get a new Hose and Clamp bracket for my Mira Elite QT.
    Does anyone know if spurious parts are available at a reasonable cost?

    Cost of original parts is €40 plus shipping - was hoping to spend around half of that or am I deluded?

    Pm me I might be able to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    glog wrote: »
    I need to get a new Hose and Clamp bracket for my Mira Elite QT.
    Does anyone know if spurious parts are available at a reasonable cost?

    Cost of original parts is €40 plus shipping - was hoping to spend around half of that or am I deluded?


    Don't buy another plastic Mira shower hose. You now see it's cheap cack. You will get a Triton Chrome shower head from your local woodies for around 15 euro. The shower head holder you are stuck with another Mira one with it's cheap brittle plastic or replace the whole pole. Buying a Mira head holder is cheaper in the short run but as you will most likely need to replace the whole shower in the near future then I'd only be thinking short term with repairs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 rhallahan


    I have the "classic" leaking elbow problem and have replaced with a part from dublin showers. Their part seemed ok but my new issue is that the is a leak between the pump and the filter housing. It's much less worse than the leak that I was trying to fix but far from ideal.
    The dublin showers elbow came with a new O ring for the connection that's leaking but since disturbing the original ring, now it leaks with either.
    Is this a common side effect of going near the pump and are there any recommendations? (I'll stay away from Mira next time it breaks but this does seem like a minor issue so best to fix the QT).

    Thanks,
    Reg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    rhallahan wrote: »
    I have the "classic" leaking elbow problem and have replaced with a part from dublin showers. Their part seemed ok but my new issue is that the is a leak between the pump and the filter housing. It's much less worse than the leak that I was trying to fix but far from ideal.
    The dublin showers elbow came with a new O ring for the connection that's leaking but since disturbing the original ring, now it leaks with either.
    Is this a common side effect of going near the pump and are there any recommendations? (I'll stay away from Mira next time it breaks but this does seem like a minor issue so best to fix the QT).

    Thanks,
    Reg


    If it's leaking where the pump goes into the filter housing then the pump isn't sitting correctly in the filter housing. Either that or the 0 ring attached to the pump is damaged while replacing the pump elbow. I would take out the pump & inspect the 0 ring attached the the pump. Make sure it's not pinched. Try install it again. Unfortunately this 0 ring is part of the pump & not sold separately


    If it's leaking where the pump goes into the pump elbow then it's not sitting correctly in the elbow or the clip isn't tight enough. Clip will break if too tight.


    Can you post a photo or video?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    The motor isn't sitting correctly or the 0 ring on the motor is damaged. All I can suggest is removing the pump & try reseat it again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 rhallahan


    Thanks sleeper12, is it OK to remove and insert the pump without removing the filter housing as it involves going in at an angle and I suspect this might be why it then doesn't sit right. Was just being lazy avoiding switching off the water so didn't really give the filter housing any play.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    If you remove the filter, it stops water flowing through the shower. It's a way of stopping the water without crawling through the attic.

    I'm not sure if you will be able to move the pump out of the filter housing without removing the pump elbow. No harm trying. There is a black rubber fitting on the top of the motor. Remove this if you haven't already done so. This is the last part to go back in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭thewiseowl12


    Hi, grateful for any help.

    Basically came home to a constant stream of water coming out of the bottom of a Mira QT shower - its barely been used in the last 2 years, I think it was installed just over two years ago, I'm not sure I have a receipt.

    I took the front off and it appears the white clip on the elbow has broken, in hindsight there was always a drip off the shower so it must have always been leaking.

    Is there anywhere I can get the clip to replace it? Would something like a cable tie work.

    Based on the comments in the thread, I'm really annoyed this product was realised (and that the plumber installed it).

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    If we were repairing this we'd replace the elbow & clips. They are on the mark 3 of this part believe it or not & they seem to have eventually gotten it right now

    https://www.dublinshowerrepair.com/product/mira-elite-qt-pump-elbow/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 eddieb88


    looking for a little help diagnosing the issue with my Elite QT,


    No Water flow over the weekend, had happened temporarily earlier in the week but flow came after a delay,


    When I turn on shower now, green light on unit goes off, as well as the red light on the pullcord.


    I explained this to Mira via email and they advised an electrician needs to look at it, but id like another opinion after reading through this forum, incase they are fobbing me off,


    Shower is only around two years old max



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,273 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Is the the ELCB (fuseboard) switch tripping causing the red light to go off or does the red light come back on when you turn off the shower?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Sounds like a faulty pull cord switch or faulty RCBO. RCBO can fail in the on position so being up just means the fuse is up. It doesn't mean it's passing 230volts. Same with pull cord switch. Light on just means it's getting a volt. Doesn't mean it's getting 230 v



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 eddieb88


    No tripped switch, and light comes back on when I turn off shower


    I’ll get the pull cord replaced so and see, thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 WMB7575


    Hi, Loooking for some advice.

    I have a Mira QT which started making noise last week. Took off the cover and it looks like the attached images. Is it worth changing the brushes or is the motor gone. Do they always look loke this on the inside.

    Thanks

    mira.jpg image.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    The black you see is carbon from the motor. Its perfectly normal.


    When brushes wear away the motor gets quieter and quieter. It eventually stops running. A motor getting louder is the bearings failing. A replacement motor is around €140 /€150 Inc postage. A new shower is around €250 to buy. You are far better off getting the new shower. The Triton T90sr silent shower is still far better than the current mira elite se. That's the one to go for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 NicB765


    Hi everyone.

    Hope someone can help me,

    My shower starting making a weird noise so I took out the filter to clean it (without isolating the electrical supply!!)

    Put it back in place and now shower won't run and making stranger noises..


    I have no clue about any of this stuff, Can anyone tell me did I completely mess it up by not turning off the electrical supply?


    Thank you in advance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 NicB765


    Mira elite qt

    Searched back through the thread and found your help with same issue.. Although there is obviously an issue in the first place as to why its screaming



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    The biggest issue with this model when it came out first was faulty screaming motors. One in ten, straight out of the box, had dodgy motors. I've seen clients go through three motors during the warranty period alone. It seems like your motor is shot. Removing the filter most likely didn't damage the solenoid unless the shower was running while you had the filter out. Either way it seems the you now have a faulty motor & solenoid. Time to get a new shower. The Mira Elite QT & The newer Mira Elite SE are just a terrible build. Cheaply made with cheap plastic & not even a chrome hose. A cheap plastic hose. If possible I'd replace it with a Triton T90SR



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