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wotzgoingon · 04-11-2021 03:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118118550#Comment_118118550

It would be cheaper to wait and buy one of the 3D stacked cache chips from AMD in the new year.

wotzgoingon · 04-11-2021 03:31PM

Just finished watching that Gamer Nexus review from a few posts above and I'm not that impressed with the new CPU it wins yes but only by a small margin compared to 5950X. The new 3D stacked CPU's from AMD should claw some of that back. Also it looks like GN ran the tests with 3200MHz RAM when they really should have ran it at 3600MHz and 1800IF for 1:1:1 to get better scores for AMD.

Homelander · 04-11-2021 03:37PM

But surely the point was to try and directly compare by standarising to give a clearer picture of where Intel are now at. By that logic he could have used 4800mhz for the Intel and it would've been a good bit faster again.

wotzgoingon · 04-11-2021 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118118765#Comment_118118765

Did he not use DDR5 for Intel I skipped through some of the video.

Aodhan5000 · 04-11-2021 04:44PM

They used DDR5 alright ya but he also used windows 10 which you could argue gimped the 12900k so it goes both ways. I prefer hardware unboxed anyway. It's just great to see competition again. Was expecting AMD to take the mick altogether with pricing of the new stacked cache chips but I'd say they'll be less inclined now.

https://youtu.be/WWsMYHHC6j4

Calibos · 04-11-2021 04:55PM

Well thankfully the Z690 motherboard launch debacle gave me time to read and watch reviews before my 12900K/Asus Maximus Hero shipped, though not before my Corsair Dom Plat RGB 5200CL36 DDR5.

Cancelled my order from Overclockers.

New plan is that my brother still gets my 5900X but instead I get him a Micro-ATX B550 motherboard and some cheaper Non RGB 4x8GB 3600C18 DDR4 that better suits his use-cases and HTPC form-Factor case. I keep my Strix X570-F Mobo and 4x8GB Vengeance RGB Pro 3600C18 DDR4 and buy myself a V-Cache version of the 5900x when the launch in the next month or two.

I bought into the Alderlake Hype but its really just Catch-Up for Intel and AMD will re-take the performance crown when V-Cache chips launch soon.

Anyone here want to buy 2x16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB First Edition (0287&0288) 5200mhzCL36 before I return it to Corsair?? Apparently you can't get DDR5 of any speed for love nor money at the moment. Cash and Collection only from Bray. €400 for a fellow boardsie, I could probably get a lot more for it elsewhere. LOL

deceit · 04-11-2021 05:29PM

Looks very interesting. Very tempted to build a rig around it after watching Wendell's video on it. Also tempted to see can I find someone trying to get this and selling a 5900x or 5950x in a hurry in Germany as might get a good deal when they want to pick one up since I have my replacement X570 board being posted out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kakHA7nDqrI

Homelander · 04-11-2021 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118118837#Comment_118118837

Sorry, you're right I don't know what I was thinking....a moment of madness.

Overall I'm not hugely impressed given the mad expense of the platform and DDR5, but at least it should hopefully lead to some more competitive pricing.

At this stage, with all the crap going on with shortages, for the first time in a long time I'm perfectly content to just stick with my PC as it is and haven't really gotten any upgrade itch like I normally would.

Earlier this year I actually bought a cool 120hz screen laptop with an RTX3060 and 5800H for playing games at a friends house instead of buying a new card as I usually would. Money well spent!

K.O.Kiki · 04-11-2021 05:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118118550#Comment_118118550

If you're playing above 1440p there's literally no point in changing CPU unless you need it for work.

.G. · 04-11-2021 05:56PM

Hardware unboxed review title "Ryzen Dethroned" was a tad misleading IMO, for gaming anyway. Depends on your work loads I suppose but for gaming a 2-3% performance gain over a 5950x or 5900x isn't anything to write home about. With increased power consumption to boot.

Haven't watched the others yet.

kingtiger · 04-11-2021 06:08PM

great to see some competition again, but that power draw on the 12900k 😨

wotzgoingon · 04-11-2021 06:33PM

Power efficient if you browsing the internet but Intel won't tell you that they say they are very efficient chips. Hoping people buy them without realising.

I can't wait for the 3D chips just to see how they stack up. But that much cache isn't cheap to produce so who knows what way AMD will go regarding price.

K.O.Kiki · 04-11-2021 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118119623#Comment_118119623

Just depends on how much profit they want to make.

AMD/Intel could probably slash their prices by 50% if they ever got desperate to move inventory.

Solitaire · 05-11-2021 01:52AM

Intel: "Alder Lake's new cores are rated "E" for Efficient!"

Also Intel: "Our new flagship CPU has 105% of the performance of our leading competitor, but it only draws 103% more power! So efficient!"

Just shy of 250W for a stock desktop CPU... b r u h 😂

iLikeWaffles · 05-11-2021 01:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118104015#Comment_118104015

$800.... reasonably priced 🤣

There is more 32" 4k reasonably priced monitors available no?

wotzgoingon · 06-11-2021 09:13PM

Gamers Nexus review of new Intel chips Windows 10 vs Windows 11 and it seems they perform better on W10 than W11. Makes me wonder was I right to upgrade my own Ryzen system to W11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBFTSej-yIs

K.O.Kiki · 11-11-2021 09:54AM

Yeah so guess who wiped their backups after moving his Windows install to a bigger SSD, only to have the install bork on the second boot?

Lessons: don't wipe your backups until a week after.

FFS

SickBoy · 11-11-2021 03:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149755#Comment_118149755

The lesson is don't wipe your backups until you create newer backups!

Mr Crispy · 16-11-2021 10:00PM

Squidgy Black · 27-11-2021 10:33PM

Convinced I’m after somehow frying my Ryzen 3600, it’s driving me insane.

Was playing a game, froze up, tried to reboot but nothing, so powered off at the wall.

Reboot, all fans spinning, no display output. Red CPU error light on the Mai mortar max.

Swapped GPU, no dice. Swapped motherboards to an older b450 I have, no dice. Did a bios flash on the existing board, nada. Reset CMOS, ripped everything out of the case, tried to boot with single stick of ram, just the cpu and GPU, swapping ram around slots etc etc, nothing.

PSU is a Focus GX850 that’s less than a year old too so doubt it’s that and everything’s lighting up.

Starting to think a 5600x is my only option now, unless anyone else has any ideas?

Mr Crispy · 28-11-2021 01:32AM

Edit: Sorry, misread.

CMOS battery can cause the CPU to not be recognised on some boards.

Were your temps okay before the thing went haywire?

Squidgy Black · 28-11-2021 11:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118234250#Comment_118234250

Would be surprised if it was the CMOS since I tried 2 mobos.

Was the one time I wasn’t monitoring temps, but I can’t imagine it was being pushed overly hard.

Luckily Amazon are refunding me, so have a 5600X ordered so will keep my fingers crossed that it works, otherwise it’s PSU and RAM, or else I’ll truly be out of ideas

Squidgy Black · 01-12-2021 10:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118234982#Comment_118234982

5600X arrived today, did a quick test boot and we have display output.

Still genuinely amazed that I managed to kill a CPU without running it under mental conditions, but I suppose the silicon lottery is a bit different these days?

jebidiah · 02-12-2021 11:06AM

Hi guys any general consensus on where to buy parts these days? My mate wants to upgrade (finally) from his i5 4460 Rx480 rig and has asked me to look into it.

Thinking something on the lines of a Ryzen 3600, 16 GB 3200 MHz RAM and an RTX 3060...

Maybe something along the lines of the following, if prebuilt is a decent option? https://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/pc-specialist-fusion-grs-gaming-pc--nbspgeforce-rtx-3060nbspamd-ryzen-5nbsp16gb-ramnbsp512gb-ssd-amp-1tb-hdd-with-3-monthnbspxbox-game-pass-for-pc/1600608585.prd?crossSellType=item_page.recs_1

Otherwise, where should I be ordering parts from?

TIA

K.O.Kiki · 02-12-2021 02:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255755#Comment_118255755

Pre-built is your only option for new GPUs unless you know how to get an Nvidia Founders Edition.

Mr Crispy · 02-12-2021 02:29PM

Is there any legitimate way of getting an FE here in Ireland (apart from having relatives/friends in the UK)?

jebidiah · 03-12-2021 12:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256885#Comment_118256885

Any recommendations on system builders or specific rigs? Is it worth waiting a few months at the moment?

K.O.Kiki · 06-12-2021 11:37PM

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/3/22698588/falcodrin-gpu-hunters-nvidia-amd-graphics-card-tricks-bots-scalpers-miners-gamers

This makes for very grim reading.

savemejebus · 07-12-2021 11:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118281315#Comment_118281315

Anything on 'The Verge' should be taken with a huge pinch of salt. They are the absolute worst and doomsaying so unless there are a bunch of other sources validating what they say I wouldn't worry about it.

Mr Crispy · 07-12-2021 12:09PM

TBF, they make great PC build guides.

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