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Wasn't there a statement from the police that they were either re-opening the case or looking into the case again? Was there a time frame given? I also recall they wouldn't give any statements unless there was some form of new evidence?

What political pressure might that be now? If it is, it only took them 20 years to start putting it on.

It's just over 4 years since Bailey lost his high court case and appeal, because we don't do miscarriages of justice in Ireland. Then STDP's 'family' decided to double down on the bullshit with a conviction and requests for extradition. Is that because after 20 years the French 'political' system decided to go after him or because they didn't want any snooping around this case in France, the kind they'd seen during Bailey's high court case?

We reached a point during Bailey's high court case against the Gardai when you would either have to be very innocent or driven by an agenda that you wouldn't accept that there was a high level cover-up in this case. Bailey just happened to be the unfortunate who got caught up in a bigger game.

This was what drove a very hurried conviction in France, and the subsequent nonsense (if you're not Bailey) around extradition, which funnily enough doesn't seem to have the French too annoyed. Like the Irish justice system before them never really wanted Bailey in court, the French one doesn't want him in France. Everyone is probably enquiring about his health.

Someone here said laughably that there is political pressure for a conviction. Macron was asked about it a couple of months ago when he was in Dublin and did his best not to laugh. He invited Bailey to France. I laughed.

It's scary when you list points like that..

I don't want to live in a society that would sling a man in jail because they disliked him..

Scary stuff indeed.

There are many, many well off people in the judiciary and justice system and in the wider 'state' for whom this country couldn't be more perfect.

Ian Bailey took a number of court actions and didn't get any satisfaction. Nothing came of the Maurice McCabe affair. GSOC will probably end up as useless as it ever was. Austin Currie who died recently, showed a lot of courage in Northern Ireland but his abiding memory of the political system in the Republic was that all politicians did was pay lip service to the plight of Catholics in the North as they were quite happy with the cosy arrangement they found themselves in

Is she the lowest of the low? Although maybe that doesn't describe a physical dimension as much as it does a type that's prepared to the bidding of undeniably, viciously cruel people for their own preservation. Black people have a descriptor "Uncle Tom" but we've always gone further here where Tom tends to delight in mocking his own. Maybe someone could help me with one of the words we have in Irish that fits like sleveen, gombeen etc?

What are your area of expertise?

The vast amount of reflection and comment around this case is a very good area to study the recent online phenomenon of trolling and the much older tactic of disinformation spreading we now call gaslighting. Sophie died at a time in Ireland where a newspaper story about a moving statue could have been relied on to attract large crowds to that grotto. The nature of society was such however, that anybody with a minimum understanding of it would know that had Ian Bailey been guilty of her murder, he would have spent Christmas day 1996 in Cork prison and that is why it is simply impossible that he did it. It is truly astonishing what this state got up to, to stop him clearing his name. From his arrests to the libel trial up to the high court case.

Everyone from Governments, political parties to private citizens operate troll farms or troll knocking-shops, where, for some vested interest, numerous people proffer opinions on single issues in online forums just like this one, where many times they appear to be disagreeing strongly with each other but which has the same ultimate aim. So what is it on this one? It is the same aim that has inspired books and documentaries and it's very lucrative. It is simply to keep Ian Bailey front and centre of something he had nothing to do with. The vast majority of these people like to suggest that they are almost convinced of his innocence but never completely. While someone like Nick Foster is openly laughing at people for allowing him make a lot of money off of obvious bullshit. In the case of someone like Nick Foster he has figured out that Ireland/France can never let the truth come out. In the case of the gutter press they can use anything related to Bailey because of a libel case he won't be repeating. The trolls don't need any more direction than to keep speculating on the same old story.

All of this suits the people who know a lot more than we will ever know about Sophie Toscan du Plantier.The high court case taken by Bailey spooked a lot of them and led to a flurry of activity designed to bury any future investigation. Hence trolls wherever you look who want to keep going over and over and over how Bailey could have carried out this murder and then disappeared into thin air. Ian Bailey is a latter day moving statue. 90% of people here are almost convinced this statue never moved.