Lookit…. Just wear the masks……. It’s no big deal.
All you have here is unqualified idiots trying to impose their lunacy on people.
Take the qualified advice .
Jesus Christ. I get that you don't want your kid to wear a mask, but that is a horrible comment.
How so ?
Do you send every penny you earn that's not required for food and send it to starving people in Africa?
If not ,you are choosing not to help in extending someone's life
Just because someone can't live forever doesn't mean they shouldn't have the *right* to live forever.
I'm happy to put my life on hold and my kids lives on hold and destroy the economy if it means we can all live forever.
You trying to defend a nasty point of view you put across ... I'd suggest stepping away from the keyboard for a while.
my kids are wearing masks and minding themselves so my 80 year old mother is at less of a risk when I go to visit her in the nursing home and I hope to be able to have her company for a few years to come not for her to be a sacrificial lamb so my kid won't have to stick a mask on for a few hours
That's you're families choice , my mother is mid seventies, she made the decision not to avoid her grandkids
You want kids to wear a face Shield so those in their eighties live longer ,that's selfish of you in my view ,do it if you want but don't expect my kids to
Vaccination and boosters are supposed to mean there aren’t any ‘sacrificial’ lambs, why should the kids suffer?
I am not judging you but just a question that interests me . Does your mother agree with your decision or do you think she would agree with you ?
For Christ sake. Have people really lost the run of themselves this much? Seriously? Complaining and whinging about the introduction of a measure that is PROVEN to mitigate spread. Which is better for the whole community!
Spread puts pressure on hospitals, increases the chances of people catching the disease, increases the chances of new variants emerging and increases the chances of more **** restrictions. Cop on.
The vast majority of kids will be absolutely fine wearing masks and allowances can be made for those that can't. Stop being bloody contrary for the sake of it and focus your energy on doing something that would actually help children/schools etc.
id agree with the idea , we have to get away from this idea that every death is one too many, unfortunately we all end up dead in the end , theres no escape. time to live our lives to the max, thats what living with covid is about. we wont have a huge amount of deaths at this stage, all were doing is saving health sysytem thats not citizens job
Keep the head down and go with the flow
Every thread now reads like the conspiracy or anti-everything threads. Getting worse by the day. Unreadable most of the time. Not even funny to laugh at the loons anymore.
The vast majority of people who don’t want kids wearing masks is their parents. Kids probably won’t care if their parents didn’t make such a song and dance about it.
If they don’t want to wear a mask in school then why bother doing homework or wear a uniform or whatever other rule the school have
My mother was a nurse her whole life and for the last 20 years of her career she worked in an ICU setting .. so yes she does support the notion of doing anything that keeps people out of ICU
My kids see their grandchildren .. antigen tests are handy along with general day to day doing what you can to decrease the chances of passing on the virus ... it's not a binary choice
No I don't send every penny of my disposable income to Africa. The comparison you are trying to make is really really poor. Donating all of my disposable income is not comparable to being asked to wear a mask in school.
According to you, your child shouldn't wear a mask, just to suit an 80 year old, yet by making that comment you expect that a teacher would put themselves at higher risk in the classroom, just to suit your child.
What is so special about your child that they should be considered in spite of not considering anyone themselves?
You could use antigen tests before visiting your mum if you are that concerned . Better than asking very small children to use masks in their daily life
Not all rules are sound ,only an unthinking fool unconditionally follows rules
Teachers are not at risk from kids ,not enough risk to warrant this
The point about Africa ( which you appear to have misunderstood) was designed to show that contrary to the pious claims of mask enthusiasts, we don't do everything possible to extend the lives of others
Only an idiot objects to proven safety measures being introduced.
I didn't misunderstand your point. Either you misunderstand the role of masks or else you have been swept up in the hype ...
Your child wearing a mask is not going to save Ireland's 85year olds. That is not why they are being asked to wear them.
Your child is being asked to wear a mask to prevent the teacher becoming a close contact in the event of there being a covid case in the classroom. The level of risk to their health comes not into it. If you are a close contact of a positive case, you must isolate for 10 days, regardless of vaccination status.
I am a second level teacher. I have had students in my classroom test positive. Because we are wearing masks I am not deemed a close contact and I can continue to show up and the school can continue to stay open.
If we are going to have a conveyor belt of teachers isolating due to being close contacts, the schools are not going to be able to stay open.
I do use antigen tests .. but I want to visit her and the less risk we as as a family of getting the virus means the more I can see of her
i will reiterate .. my kids have no issue what so ever with masks .. at 9 and 12 years old it just isn't a big deal
banning cars is a sure fire way of eliminating road deaths so presumably we must bring in such a safety measure without delay ?
kids have a far higher chance of being killed in a car crash than dieing from covid
then the policy of isolating for ten days in the event of being a close contact needs to be scrapped
A parent-teacher meeting with some people on this forum would be quality entertainment.
Well, it had been done away with up until about two or three weeks ago when cases started to rise again. There was talk at the time of teachers being exempt from the isolating. It was apparently reported that they were exempt from it but that mention was quickly removed from the rte website and then it was confirmed that teachers wouldn't be exempt and would also have to isolate for 10 days if they became close contacts.
I would imagine that it was probably initially intended that teachers would be exempt from that rule, but under pressure about how that might look, they had to change their minds.
Another way this 'isolate for 10 days rule' becomes a drain on staff numbers is when a teacher's child tests positive. They are then out for 10 days to isolate for that.
So ... between those two scenarios, I'm guessing that they came up with the conclusion that the best (ie: cheapest) option was to mask the children.
As a vaccinated, second level teacher, I would be happy for the 10 day isolation for close contacts to be removed from secondary school settings because of the masks. It effectively has been removed because of the presence of masks.
The place is gone to the dogs tbh. Posters constantly abusing people in the media, politicians, members of NPHET, name calling etc...
No excuse for it tbh.
its absolutely ghastly that kids must be masked in order to provide cover for incompetent politicians who in a time of unprecedented crisis ( you know the time when extrordinary measure can be got through ) could not improve ICU and hospital capacity in general
kids are now the scapegoats and it appears most cheer it on
They said the same about lockdown, that worked well didn’t it???
Your analogy is seriously flawed.