Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I think further restrictions are coming with a minilockdown for Christmas. The mandatory test for people travelling will have 0 impact on covid numbers but it is to prepare the population for new restrictions.

That has been said many times in the last 21 months and I'm still waiting. Every time I hear another hair brained restriction, I think, right this is the one that will tip us back to normality and for people to see nphet for what they are but nope the nodding dogs lap it up.

I don't do Irish media or listen to NPHET so I'm pretty oblivious to the 'fear machine'. Which restrictions do you think are here to stay?

Not just the cmo. Judging by the conversations in the office today, this masking of children is not going down well at all.

The shaming is not going to work for much longer either.

The Journal and others might like to pretend that it is just right wing trolls who are against what is happening, but the government has lost, and is losing, a lot of the public.

It has become a farce and people are starting to notice.

You couldn't make the **** up

NPHET and St Tony truly going after kids

Seriously this is going too far and they have lost their heads

That depends on different times during the past 18+ months, but for example...

• Expressing approval at restaurants/bars not checking vaccination certs.
• Not social distancing and/or expressing approval of other people not distancing
• Not wearing masks when required and expressing approval of same in others
• Attending illegal pub lock-ins
• Attending multi-household get-togethers when mixing more than the recommended number.
• Travelling beyond the allowed limit

Etc

That's simply not true though.

Myocarditis is common for infections with many virus including the common cold. Most people don't realise they have had it unless they went for a test.

The majority of cases of vaccine induced myocarditis have been mild and easily treated.

Sars-COV2 also causes myocarditis with a much higher chance of severe myocarditis.

I disgree. I think following restrictions helps to "bring on restrictions" - politically, not medically. Most people don't understand how autocratic societies work and think that if they do what they're told they'll be "rewarded" with freedom, which never happens.

Its in countries like Serbia, Georgia and some of the US red states where people won't follow restrictions that restrictions fall by the wayside (in practice, if not in law).

The most compliant countries, like Ireland and Scotland, are the ones where restrictions will linger for a long, long time.

The medical effect of things like social distancing is unknown. There were a few obscure studies modelled on influenza pandemics before 2020, then SD was 'rolled out' to the whole world via WHO and national governments. Almost from the moment it was accepted politically by the masses it was assumed to work due to the simple cause-and-effect logic ('Its not rocket science guys!') and defended with intense and fierce loyalty beyond reason. The actual effect of it is unknown/unproven still.

Same with many of the restrictions. I asked someone on this thread for a comparison pre-cert and post-cert rates of infection and they took their ball and went home. Even before vaccination we had rates of infection in certain settings and they were miniscule, I remember gyms in particular were tiny. There isn't even faint evidence that certs do a thing, there's just nothing. We get layered extrapolations of hypotheticals in lieu of hard evidence from posters who maybe don't understand the difference.

Its always been the case that the "efficacy" of the restrictions has been unknown and a mish-mash of different measures are taken in toto and defended as one - even though its possible for instance that one meaures works and another doesn't. But they are all handed down from on high which is what connects them.

children will be refused an education without a mask

children are asked not to play with other children

Do people actually hear what’s coming out of their mouths?

its **** insanity

It’s just their turn to be the bogeymen to distract the simpletons from the failings above.

They are been asked in public but told and enforced in private. And people see nothing wrong with that.

again it’s not the mask wearing that’s the problem it’s the way it’s been enforced along with all the other mandatory things been brought in.