Austria hits panic button.

You are trying to justify mandated vaccines using oversimplified, hypothetical data and you are accusing everyone else of being scientifically illiterate 🤣

Well given ya can't understand the simple ones there wouldn'tbne much point in presenting a more complicated one would there.

Any sure anyway, Bill Gates and George Soros are just paying me to type this so that they can inject more magnetic chips onto people

You can add that to the long list of things you can't fathom.

Ya see, plenty of underlying conditions are somewhat self inflicted. Not all of course, but many are preventable and avoidable. For example, if you have a braindead ignorant obese person who doesn't understand, or care, they are killing themselves by stuffing themselves with burgers and chips every night, then one might expect a correlation between the person making that stupid decision and them deciding not to take a vaccine to protect themselves.

If someone is thick enough not to get a vaccine, what makes you think that them being diagnosed with an underlying condition is magically going to raise their IQ by a sufficient number of points to get them to change their mind?

Do you know a few people who chose not to get the vaccine? If any of them are overweight, then you have an "underlying condition" candidate right there.

Regardless of capacity, surely the idea should be to keep as many people out of ICU as possible? And by not getting vaccinated, you are increasing the chances you will end up in ICU if you catch COVID.

so our health system is in a terrible state and your answer is not getting a vaccine so potentially making that situation worse?

Literally not what's being said, at any level.

It's too easy a target. A majority of Austrians voting for something.

In truth, I wasn't really making a point. Fine, Austrians can vote as they wish.

It was actually their far right history I was referring to (and not as a serious point)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Austrian_Anschluss_referendum

Rather than focus on how many of the people in ICU have an underlying condition, can you tell us how many people in the population have one and what the vaccination breakdown is between them and those without underlying conditions?

Without that its kinda hard to reason anything meaningful from your data that would backup your point.

Assuming that the vast majority dont have any underlying condition would indicate that being vaccinated reduces your changes or ending up in ICU (as already demonstrated by My Trump above)

What so you are saying 95% of the Irish population are vaccinated. Is it not about time people stopped spouting this rubbish ?

So I take it that you are agreeing with me. And actually going further than me? That's grand.

Plus, there will be an additional "Darwin benefit" if we don't have to waste resources on the anti-vaxxers. Might help bring up the average IQ

Well it depends on the subject there Wibbs. If someone is arguing that the moon is made of cheese, there isn't really that much room for "plasticity". If they go to a hospital to coerce an old man out of it, who ends up dying as a result, then that has to be treated with the contempt it deserves.

We have to look at it from the point of view of society at large. And everyone needs to do their bit. There is a societal responsibility. If you don't want to be part of society's responsibilities, then you shouldn't get to avail of it's benefits.

If someone won't make an effort to help themself and they die, where they would have otherwise lived had they chosen a vaccine, then that would indeed be a potential Darwin Award candidate.

Additionally, if one finds themselves arguing a point, and looks around and sees that they are mainly surrounded by flat earthers and associated loons etc., then at that point it might be worth reflecting on one's position.