Austria hits panic button.

That is purely a value judgement - there's no reason why you would not triage if you choose to do so. It's not some sort of iron law of nature.

Generally when the drunk driver and the victim of the driver turn up at the hospital, there is room to treat both. But if we are talking about 300 drunk drivers and 300 victims, and there is only room to treat 500, I don't think anyone other than habitual drunk drivers would be outraged if the innocent victims get priority. Maybe you think in this (obvisouly contrived) example that distinguishing would be outrageous? But if you, I would love to understand why.

Im not advocating for any one aspect of healthcare because the entire system is fukced.

Completley fckued and the management of the HSE have as their number one priority to keep the Public relations image of the HsE from damaging politicians personally.

Slaintecare is dead in the water with the resignations it has had.

but this is going off topic.

Im not against mandatory vaccinations, but in am against them for these jabs because they dont provide the breakthrough we need.

Elaborate.

Indeed. Not to mention, certain claimed medical exemptions for vaccines can be bogus. The current figures for extreme allergic reaction (e.g. anaphylactic shock) are only around 5 in one million for Covid vaccines. A recent study took 29,000 and found only 3 who were allergic (3 still took the vaccine and didn't have an allergic reaction)

I'll tell you what: can you find a single news source that says that a one-off vaccine would protect you from COVID indefinitely? Then we will see who is lying/a conspiracy loon.

Do you not understand why there is a different flu shot every year? Did you ever hear someone say, 'Oh I got my flu shot 5 years ago, I'm set for life'?

1. You don't seem to understand how vaccines for respiratory diseases like influenza and COVID work.
2. You are projecting this ignorance onto the entire population.

As I said above: can you please furnish a single news source that said a one-off vaccine would protect against all forms of COVID indefinitely? If you cannot find this, it demonstrates that you somehow created this narrative in your head out of whole cloth as you don't understand the whole virus thing at all.

JNJ advertised a one shot jab, and initially proclaimed 8 months effectiveness while alluding to longer.

Pfizer a two shot course.

The goalposts have moved on that because the effectiveness wilts pretty quickly and there is nothing to suggest pfizer wont become a 4/5/6 shot course.

Thats the point im making is about disagreeing with having a mandate for taking these shots when they are clearly not the solution and merely a temporary benefit in reducing the deaths from it.

In fact these vaccinations for covid should not be called vaccinations but called something like “temporary preventative therapitics” or some such because vaccination implies a permanent robust barrier to disease.

The vaccines still work fine - and as predicted - against the variants that were running riot when they were released. Those variants - not coincidentally, I imagine - are now being out-competed by delta. This is what happens with the flu virus every year. This is not new, or surprising.

Vaccines are still the solution. Like flu, you either take the annual jab which is tailored to combat the variants of concern, or you take your chances with a virus that could kill you.

This is nonsensical. There isn't a jab for obesity.

You keep making comparisons with the flu which ignores the differences between the flus and covid namely the seasonality of influenzas which isnt a factor in covid.

And vac’s are only the solution if you accept that they dont solve the problem, offer waining protection and necessitate regular repeated doses of them. Which to me isnt a solution, its better than nothing but its not a solution.

Well that's fair enough, that would be your choice, but that highlights the fundamental difference between people who take this vaccine and lot of those who don't want to take it. Personally I wouldn't take a weight loss jab, especially one which was recently developed and had unknown long term side effects. I'd much prefer diet and exercise.

Some people take their health seriously, they eat right, and exercise and keep themselves in good shape. Some people don't and have a list of drugs they take to compensate for poor health choices, and a lot of the most common co-morbidities leading to covid deaths are precisely due to years of neglected health. Its so strange to me that there's so little talk about the obesity aspect of this pandemic. but because people won't take a drug, they're treated as outcasts and preached to by a lot of people who neglected their own health for decades making them more vulnerable.

As I understand it, 'Flu is not seasonal either - it just spreads more at certain times of the year as people are in more confined spaces indoors in winter. Just as with COVID. The main difference seems to be that COVID is simply more infectious. Apparently a couple of strains of flu have gone extinct due to the precautions put in place to slow COVID.

People keep going on about 'long term effects' with regard to these vaccines. There ARE no 'long term effects' - if anything is going to happen to you, it will happen very fast - within a couple of weeks. After that, there is no mechanism for anything to happen at all, there is no trace of the vaccine in your body - you are into homeopathic territory at that point.

Meanwhile, it seems there are very serious and long-term consequences of COVID, even if you don't end up in ICU (which obviously most people do not).

So because COVID is more contagious...something something? I'm not sure what you are arguing here.