How important is a man's job when it comes to dating?

19-11-2021 09:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193535#Comment_118193535

You just reminded me of the line from a very old Van Morrison song. "All the girls walk by / Dressed up for each other / And the boys do the boogie-woogie / On the corner of the street".

HazeDoll · 19-11-2021 09:41PM

A potential partner's job is of course very important. I couldn't begin to fancy a fella who manages the hounds for a local hunt, for example. Or a solicitor who makes a living getting people payouts for 'whiplash.' Or a scientist who works in a lab where animal testing takes place. Those are all for ethical reasons but I would find other jobs a turn off for other reasons. Somebody who might be called out of bed at an ungodly hour or might have to spend hours commuting wouldn't appeal to me. Every architect I've ever met was an almighty dicc head so I would be reluctant to get involved there either.

As regards paycheque, I would eventually resent somebody who was dipping into my paycheque to pay for his diesel or something. Similarly I would find it very uncomfortable to be with somebody whose lifestyle was beyond my means.

19-11-2021 09:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193956#Comment_118193956

There a real ‘bang’ of an odious personality off this post to be frank..

riclad · 19-11-2021 09:55PM

i see women going out at 11pm, i think they wear very short dress,s to attract men, i think most women go out with people from the same class, a woman who works at google on an 80k salary probably wont marry a man who works at tesco on a low wage .people who went to college tend to go out with men of similar education level.middle class people go to expensive restaurants and bars , working class men wont pay 200 euro for a bottle of wine.i think its quiet important .why do women wear sexy dress.s and high heels to nightclub, to attract men.why does it take a woman half a hour to get ready,putting on makeup etc i read it harder for women on high status jobs and high wages to date, as many men do not like a woman who earns more than they do

Donald Trump · 19-11-2021 09:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190569#Comment_118190569

Who is saying anything about impossibility?

I like that women are attracted to men with good jobs. I spent a lot of my 20's as a poor postgraduate student. I'm not in my 20's any more but I get a lot more interest from better looking women in their 20's then I did when I was a student! So I'm happy out. And you can be sure that my looks haven't suddenly improved. I am nowhere near the athletic condition I was in in my mid 20's.

19-11-2021 09:58PM

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JoChervil · 19-11-2021 11:04PM

Money is a medium of exchange. High earners don't get high salaries for nothing. It indicates that they have certain valuable qualities.

Of course this can be earned in an unethical, soul destroying or cruel way, so what they do is also important. So if you meet someone in a working age, what they do takes a big part of their life, so it is a natural thing, if you want to know someone to ask, what they do.

I don't feel comfortable, when man pays for my dinner or drinks, but I've noticed that paying for such things makes man feel more masculine. So it is sometimes a choice, whose comfort I will choose.

And people generally want to avoid unnecessary problems. So asking certain question can eliminate certain threats, like a need to sponsor someone. And does not necessary mean that they want to be sponsored.

19-11-2021 11:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193936#Comment_118193936

I didn't read most of that, pointless distraction from the original question. 'I sAid tHat YOu sAid thAt... whatever. Phone Joe.

As for the original question, I've provided a university's citation of a study, a quote from a doctor specializing in a related area. And a couple of rough quotes from two professors in the fields of human behavior and evolutionary psych.

And this quick simple mythbusters experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k224gY7Tn-Y

the music videos are also a contribution, as they show whats on womens minds throughout the decades. An insight into the importance of job status as revealed by music, consistent throughout the decades. No romance without finance, no I dont want no scrub, keep paying my bills, I want money thats what I want.

Anyway, those are my contributions to OP's question. What are yours?

19-11-2021 11:25PM

"I didnt read most of that"

So the same thing you did for the link and study you quoted then :)

That was a "roast" comment. But you have to admit you walked into that one :) You dug a hole and you are digging it deeper now :)

I do apologize. We have completely hit off on the wrong foot since the first. If I had my ckc out in my hand since the first I apologize for that too. But as I keep saying - your first message was "Here is a % please explain it" and I waded in like a knight in shining armour to say "I will explain! But first show me where it came from!". And this triggered you for whatever reason.

My intention was not to fault you or trigger you. But to literally answer your question. And as I said - I cant answer the question without the background.

But - and this is not slighting you - a "university citation" is not a great thing. It is still an opinion piece. You still have to go back to the original study and see what it was actually saying. Which unfortunately not enough people do (again not a slight on you!). We are too often mislead by people who write pieces about studies - and put their own slant upon it.

Semi tongue in cheek though - but half serious - careful where you drop the phrase "evolutionary psych." around boards.ie :) If you think I was in any way strident in my responses to you in the last couple days - you ain't seen nothing like what that might trigger hehehehehe.

As for your last question - scroll back I already threw mine into the mix :)

OscarMIlde · 20-11-2021 12:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193882#Comment_118193882

I'm talking about working jobs which require long hours/intense commitment. The argument was that divorces are more common when women earn more. It could be that women in high earning jobs are more time strapped/spend less time devoted to home/relationship relative to the job leading to a greater chance of a divorce than a woman who works a traditional nine to five.

20-11-2021 12:32AM

Of course, money is important for some women... especially women who are looking to settle down and want to have a guy that can provide some security. There's nothing sly or underhand in having such a preference. In fact, certain cultures encourage such a perception... (Try dating a few Asian or Russian women, and you'll quickly appreciate what I mean)

All the same though, I really do have to laugh at this one. Throughout my 20s and early 30s while I was earning pretty good money, my dating sucked in a major way with women. However, in my 30s, I switched from working in Finance, moved to teaching/lecturing (abroad), with a major cut in salaries, and suddenly my dating improved substantially. 😂

Many woman want a man who has character and is willing to commit himself to something.... and TBH most women I've dated in last decade have earned more than me... and they/we were fine with it. Money isn't terribly important to me, and while most people don't really understand it, they can accept it. Kinda. The women, for whom money is important, steer clear of me for dating (except for the short term), but honestly, I do think most women these days have more important priorities than whether the guy earns well or not. It's always going to be a factor for some people, but considering the salaries and benefits available to women, they can easily surpass their partner if they're that way inclined.

TBH I suspect having a similar level of education/qualifications is more important to women, than income.

20-11-2021 12:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118194645#Comment_118194645

I gave her the search term. It only takes a highlight and a right click.

If the energy is there to do the 'link or didn't happen' thing. Then theres enough energy to highlight and right click. I'm pointing you in the direction of truth, do me the courtesy of not being a pedantic prick about it.

Or if you do want to call me out as the compulsive liar I clearly am, then why not double down and search my words so you can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that I'm out here randomly lying for the craic. (we're all about the proof after all)

And here what you'd get: https://www.google.com/search?q=high+earning+women+and+divorce&rlz=1C1CHBF_enIE916IE916&oq=high+earning+women+and+divorce&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Link after link. All consistent with the question I had asked. You don't have to find any exact one, they'll all do.

I do get the proof or it didn't happen thing, and I would understand if I'd said something outrageous.

Its just that the proof was supplied in this case by way of a method that takes one click more. Someone being sincere would of course follow this step. Search and see 'oh yeah high earning women DO divorce at a higher rate, let me look at that'. Someone being antagonistic would use it as an opportunity to move from conversation to cross examination.

Whatever. Back on topic.

I'm not one to usually associate myself a Joe Rogan link, I find it slightly below me, but in this instance I will as the contents (towards the last 5 minutes) are relevant to OP's question.

Prof Gad Saad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54v1dMZcD8M

the problem with a lot of truths on women/dating out there on the internet is that they're often found in the same realm as redpill and broscience content, and so are dismissed.

20-11-2021 12:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118194854#Comment_118194854

Could be, but then again may not be. What we do know is that women date up and across in socioeconomic status.

Which would fit in nicely as an answer to the question of why would women earning more than their husbands have a higher divorce rate. Probably a mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7LN14IpVy0

nozzferrahhtoo · 20-11-2021 12:55AM

I am enjoying the conversation you guys are having. If only one of you would scale back on the insults and the being generally triggered :) I haven't seen anyone call anyone a liar here.

nozzferrahhtoo · 20-11-2021 01:13AM

Sorry my bad. By "here" I meant during the conversation I was commenting on. During the recent back and forth no one called anyone a liar.

Ahhhh boards.ie when a semi decent conversation gets ruined by one side getting more emotional than the other.

20-11-2021 01:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195016#Comment_118195016

You seem interesting. perhaps you have something of actual value to offer, some contribution to make.

Donald Trump · 20-11-2021 01:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118194568#Comment_118194568

Not exactly relevant for the thread but the funniest part of that video comes at about 3:10. The lady says "bigger breasts mean fertility" and you see both of the fellas reaction is to check her out on the sly 🤣

nozzferrahhtoo · 20-11-2021 01:44AM

Hah! :) After you! :)

20-11-2021 02:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195063#Comment_118195063

Footage of 2 Professors separately discussing topics relevant to the question. A quote from a chief science officer/doctor with a relevant specialty. Link to a university website addressing the topic. Proof of a cultural trend of hypergamy through multiple music videos from several different decades.

Give it a try, dont just sit there on the sidelines booing like some kind of non-contributing earthworm which can say boo.

nozzferrahhtoo · 20-11-2021 02:39AM

heh not something I am generally accused of as anyone who knows me will attest :)

As I said I am a lay spectator here. It is an interesting discussion. The decorum is only failing on one side that I can see. It'd be more fun if that side picked up their game.

I'm agog for the return serve :) First to admit I know nothing about this stuff! But it is getting kinda ruined by silly over reactions. As I said..... not seeing anyone being accused of lying. Have you? If not... why did you go there?

cj maxx · 20-11-2021 03:25AM

If you meet someone in a pub/club type scenario and "shift" maybe your job isn't so important . It's animal attraction doing the work.

On a arranged date, ala friends or apps, it vital . Imo

Mister Vain · 20-11-2021 09:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190821#Comment_118190821

Is 5'9 considered short? I would have thought that was about average. He's hardly a gremlin either.

JoChervil · 20-11-2021 12:00PM

85603, haven't you noticed that you can find anything whatever you type into a search engine? What's more, you are then in a special google bubble feeding your pages and correcting your next search results basing on what you looked for before?

JoChervil · 20-11-2021 12:02PM

And about 30% divorces. Aren't there divorces, when a man earns less than a woman, so maybe it is these men's fault, that they can't accept it? And how many people divorce anyway, so we could compare then...

20-11-2021 02:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195118#Comment_118195118

Go back and check. Also as I see it theres a "spectator" failing hard.

anewme · 20-11-2021 08:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193882#Comment_118193882

Seriously embarassing post.

I'd say there's only one person likely to be wearing the McDonalds uniform.

Hint! It's not the "Bitch"!

Priceless!

20-11-2021 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198637#Comment_118198637

I only wish you could take it up with the man himself. RIP Patrice, you were better than them.

anewme · 20-11-2021 08:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198650#Comment_118198650

Did Patrice work at McDonalds too?

Kylemore Road or the Mill Centre, I'd reckon.

20-11-2021 08:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198662#Comment_118198662

It doesn't matter to men (as a group) if you work at mcdonalds. thats the point. the mythbusters video i posted earlier shows that it definitely does for women.

because, as per Dr's Fisher, Peterson and Saad, hypergamy is almost exclusively a characteristic of female mating strategy.

Thelonious Monk · 20-11-2021 09:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118198803#Comment_118198803

It does matter though, I wouldn't go out with someone that wasn't intelligent enough to have a decent job and career

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