Ghislaine Maxwell trial

doggerland wrote: »

I was assured plenty that she'd be killed... not sure how Conspiracy theorists will spin things.

Just checked there and she was arrested 22 days ago. 22 days after being arrested, Epstein was alive and well also.

Doesn't mean there's definitely a conspiracy, but it doesnt really disprove anything at this point either. Otherwise Epstein still being alive on July 28th of last year may as well have done so too.

Reviving this thread after a year and four months because, at long last and to the surprise of some posters here, Ghislaine Maxwell will face trial, having spent almost a year and a half in solitary confinement under 24-hour surveillance. So much for the presumption of innocence.

She is charged with enticing minors (four, I think) "to travel to engage in criminal sexual activity", transporting minors "with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity", conspiracy to commit those offenses, and "perjury in connection with a sworn deposition." I don't think the main offences charged here have any equivalent in Irish law. Who was the last person tried for perjury in connection with an affidavit in Ireland?  Lying on oath is a badge of honour for our criminals who relish their impunity.

Will she spill the beans or will she take one for the team? It could be bigger than OJ if she takes the stand.

Lots of others were on Team Epstein but she seems to be the only target.

I think this trial is set up to avoid the real issue - what was Jeffrey Epstein’s game? He had a shady background but started living the life of a Billionaire - not the life of a mere multimillionaire but the life of someone with boundless wealth. I see some reports talking about his real estate (massive townhouse in New York, New Mexico ranch, Paris apartment, that island in the Caribbean) as if these were the source of his wealth. Bonkers - those things are massive drains on wealth.

I thought this would be the “Trial of the Millennium” with tales a sexual crimes by a procession of rich and famous men. But all we’re getting is the misdeeds of a dead rich guy and his former girlfriend\accomplice whose name we still can’t pronounce.

I think the prosecution have done enough to stick her in the slammer for the next 10 years but they can kiss goodbye to their dreams of book tours, celebrity talk shows and a future as legal advisers to cable news channels.

Everyone was expecting MeToo would bring a slew of such cases involving modelling agencies and talent scouts but Epstein and Weinstein seem to be our lot. And those creepy sports coaches.

Is Prince Andrew off the hook? He could buy off a civil case. He will certainly have to lie low for a few years before attempting a very gradual return to public life, if the future King allows.

The prosecution or defence could have subpoenaed anyone who witnessed Maxwell with the complainants, either to corroborate their story or to say they saw nothing untoward, but that isn’t how this trial is playing out, unless the defence pulls a rabbit out of the hat next week.

I’d be shocked if she gets a lighter sentence by ratting out the rich and famous. I’m sure the thought was uppermost in her mind every day for the past 550 days in miserable solitary but we have seen no hint of a deal. She might get leniency (i.e. decent conditions and early release) for keeping her mouth shut.

A big week ahead for Maxwell - if she doesn’t change the narrative in this trip, she is sunk. I think she will take the stand and that will be a moment of high drama.

The prosecution has made out a prima facie case based on compelling testimony by four women. Maxwell must convince the jury that Epstein was running the show and that she was just a friend who helped him make connections with the rich and famous. Lots of others were helping Epstein, whether as employees or as friends. And where are the other men who abused these women? Why is she alone being keelhauled?

That argument was sketched out in opening statements- the woman being blamed for the man’s misdeeds - and it might work if Maxwell can win the sympathy of the jury.

Literally nothing will happen to any of those men accused.

Literally. Nothing.

Fining them millions or even billions will barely touch their wealth and thats all you can hope for. We all know Maxwell won't say what we all want to hear, she saw what happened to her hubby and she still has friends and family alive ready for the slaughter.

To think people actually expect justice in 2021.... come on. Seems morbid when typed up but I actually believe this is how twisted the world has gotten nowadays. Might be time for a break.

If a Chinese dissident was kept in these conditions, the U.S. would protest, and rightly. She was ready to accept the most onerous bail conditions, effectively house arrest with a $20 Million bond. The presumption of innocence is a fiction. Next up - Julian Assange.

Where are the men who abused these women? If the prosecution are planning to after them later, why haven’t they said so? It would be the best answer to her main line of defence I.e. that she is a scapegoat for powerful men.