Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

El_Duderino 09 · 12-11-2021 08:32AM

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How does it work then? How many places for the ICE (I thought it was 10 for ICE alone). How many for the gearbox, turbo, M-GUK AND M-GUH?

Anjobe · 12-11-2021 08:52AM

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5 places for a 2nd extra ICE

AMKC · 12-11-2021 10:26AM

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Oh I hope it's true. He would be great acit for Renault/ Alpine to have on the team.

quokula · 12-11-2021 11:32AM

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It's concerning for Aston Martin though, may be a vote of no confidence in the new ownership. He's been an incredibly steady hand at that team for a long time and the team would have had expectations to take a big step with the new regulations coming in along with their recent cash injection. For him to jump ship just at that moment is a very worrying sign I'd have thought.

I know Whitmarsh looks likely to take over now but that doesn't seem to have been the plan at all, he was supposed to be involved in Aston Martin's road car division. I wouldn't rate him as highly as Otmar either tbh, he's a likable guy and he did a great job cleaning up McLaren's image and putting all the corruption under Ron Dennis like Liegate and Spygate behind them, but ultimately he didn't get the results the team expected at that time.

Captain_Crash · 12-11-2021 12:12PM

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It’s 5 places for the PU another 5 for the gearbox and additional places for each other component if needed! If the whole lot is changed the penalties add up to something like 40 places. Obvs you can’t start further back than last so if a couple of components are needed often it’s best to just change the lot and take the hit (like Bottas and Max did in recent weeks)

12-11-2021 06:16PM

Almost a pity Verstappen got back in the race in Hungary, other than that he's been 1st or 2nd in every race he's finished.

ShamoBuc · 12-11-2021 06:46PM

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Almost for a stats perspective, but those 2 points could be the sweetest of them all if they get him over the line.

PopePalpatine · 13-11-2021 05:59PM

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Why would they even want to keep Gio in F1? Get Mick out of Haas and give him a competent yardstick in Bottas.

El_Duderino 09 · 14-11-2021 12:00AM

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I've no idea why they kept gio this long.

Of they want Gio and they don't have anyone in the Ferrari academy to replace him, then who else would they put in?

AMKC · 14-11-2021 10:12AM

Here is an idea. Should Formula 1 have a mini championship whitin the championship if these sprint races are going to remain a thing?

I imagine Valtarri would be winning it this year if it was like that. What does every think?

El_Duderino 09 · 14-11-2021 10:53AM

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Not for me.

I'd prefer if they considered the sprint as the first part of the race. The quali should be considered quali and separate from the sprint. The sprint should be the first part of the race but with low fuel and one set of tyres so no strategy like overcurrent or undercut. No foreplay, just banging.

That way there would be 2 starts which is probably the most exciting part of any race. Low fuel battling for one stint and then have the full strategy race. Im fine with points for the sprint, but not married to it.

flazio · 14-11-2021 12:22PM

I'd extend sprint points to the top 6 in the same allocation as the Grand Prix of the 90s. (10-6-4-3-2-1)

14-11-2021 05:26PM

Hamilton gaining 0.4 down the straight without DRS and that was without a "good" run out of the last corner. Perez needs to be going slower through the middle sector.

14-11-2021 05:26PM

Anyone else think the Tsunoda/Stroll thing was all on Stroll? He turns in super late and Tsunoda was there for a while beforehand.

14-11-2021 05:29PM

Go on Perez! :D

ShamoBuc · 14-11-2021 05:30PM

Super by Perez!!!!

ShamoBuc · 14-11-2021 05:32PM

Hamilton gets it done and now has his sights set on Max.

14-11-2021 05:37PM

The DRS (particularly Hamilton's) is so powerful that if Hamilton attempts the undercut and gets into 1 or 2 cars of traffic it could actually help him. It's all very fine margins, if he comes out 2-2.5 seconds behind someone he'll pass them at the end of the lap and get all that DRS goodness. Kinda looking at the Ferraris, there's a nice gap between them that if he passed Sainz he'd then be passing Leclerc the next time around without losing time.

Jordan 199 · 14-11-2021 05:40PM

^ Lads, can you keep the race discussion going on in the dedicated race thread thanks.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058217586/formula-1-round-19-brazil-gp

14-11-2021 05:43PM

I was looking at the wrong gap but a difference of about half a second and he'd have had Ricciardo into turn 1 and be almost side-by-side with Verstappen into 4.

Tense stuff, looks like Hamilton's race for now.

recyclebin · 14-11-2021 07:06PM

Great result for the championship today! Keeps both championships wide open.

blueser · 14-11-2021 07:47PM

Has there ever been an attempt to get a F1 Grand Prix in Ireland? To Mondello? Imagine the buzz.

flazio · 14-11-2021 08:22PM

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Mondello has never really been an F1 level of a facility. I think it's even fallen behind on what's acceptable to host a British Touring car race. Our best hope for a World class motorsport event is either Formula E race in the Phoenix Park, a World Rally event basically anywhere in the country or the FIA Gran Turismo World Championships in the National Convention Centre or similar venue.

pjohnson · 14-11-2021 08:23PM

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Formula E would the most likely shout.

blueser · 14-11-2021 08:24PM

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What about upgrading Mondello? Bring it up to F1 standards.

pjohnson · 14-11-2021 08:38PM

Apparently theres been signs unveiled accidentally in China congratulating Zhou on being the first Chinese F1 driver.

flazio · 14-11-2021 08:39PM

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Massive undertaking. The track is about 3.5 km long while most F1 tracks are at least 5km .It's a kart track in comparison. And in order to break even, it would need to host a lot more events then just a Formula 1 weekend.

It's not financially viable.

blueser · 14-11-2021 08:53PM

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Hmm. Brazil (technically now, Sao Paolo) can manage to host a GP, and it is by no means a prosperous country. I'd just love to see a GP hosted here.

14-11-2021 09:05PM

If you've got a spare half a billion feel free to give it a go.

Brazil may not be the most prosperous country but it's massive and has levels of disparity and deprivation beyond anything most of us will ever experience. It also has incredible riches and rich people throughout the country.

When the track was built it cost very little back then. If you want to build a circuit from scratch you're talking about at least a few hundred million these days. Ireland has a tiny car culture compared to most of Europe and a small population and not a lot of people who would want to put money like that up. Even the fact that the race this year was called the Sao Paolo Grand Prix I wouldn't be surprised if the city was under-writing the risk of the event. Dublin doesn't even have a proper council and Mondello is in Kildare, can't imagine the county council giving them a blank cheque.

flazio · 14-11-2021 09:07PM

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One word, Senna. The money coming in from his legacy is what's keeping the Grand Prix going, otherwise it'd been dropped a long time ago. Remember Argentina? I mean if a country like Germany can't keep a Grand Prix on the calendar what hope would Ireland have.

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