Formula 1 round 19: Brazil GP

klose

Here we go, race two of your tri-contenent triple header. All the car parts etc have been delivered to track and the stewards waived the usual curfew for building the cars so there's gonna be a few tired looking heads in the pits today I'd imagine.

Rumour is Hamilton is taking a new ICE resulting in a 5 place grid penalty for the race (not the sprint race) so that adds some spice to proceedings.

Today we have P1 and quali, tomorrow p2 and the sprint race ahead of the main race Sunday, hopefully some good racing ahead for us all.

flazio

From Sky Sports:

The key times for the weekend are:

• Qualifying starts at 7pm on Friday, with build-up from 6pm
• The F1 Sprint starts at 7.30pm on Saturday, with build-up from 6.30pm
• The Sao Paulo Grand Prix starts at 5pm on Sunday, with build-up from 3.30pm

flazio

Fingers crossed for a good weekend for McLaren. Ever since Lando slid in Russia the season has been slipping away from them and I really hope it isn't already all over for them.

Frank Bullitt

Hamilton taking a grid drop.

RB look very strong already.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118156401#Comment_118156401

Lando had a much better first half to this season and last season. Hard to know if it was the car being caught by competitors or if he can't string a full season together or a mix of both or just random chance. We'll see how he does next season and see if the pattern continues or not.

klose

I'd say ferraris new engine upgrade has them favourites for third in the constructors quite comfortably, if ricciardo settled in a bit earlier they could have built up quite a lead in a superior car as of then.

"Considering how fast the Red Bull has been, is it a surprise you're as close as you are?"

Was under the impression that overall the Merc had been fastest but it's within like 0.01% or something. Rather than being the most dominant driver of all time (and tied most world titles) they seem to be going for the Plucky Brit narrative.

Itssoeasy

Eir would put the heart crosssways on you. Nearly three full days but I’m able to watch the F1 when I wasn’t sure I’d be able to.

Cool_CM

Wow, that was a very tight Q1!

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157741#Comment_118157741

It was a bit.

klose

Latifi out qualifies Russell in traditional qualifying for the first time ever, both Williams and both haas cars are joined with lance stroll being dumped out in Q1, Hamilton definitely with a lot of pace here early on. Threat of rain still looming.

Itssoeasy

An ex F1 drivers grandmother is a weather savant.

Itssoeasy

That was a lap from Lewis.

Jordan 199

I love the Interlagos circuit.

PsychoPete

Going to be an interesting q3, Hamilton looking seriously quick. Gasly flying it aswell

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157801#Comment_118157801

It brings back memories for me watching F1 when I was younger.

Itssoeasy

david Croft got it right when he called interlagos a classic track. It’s a classic and a great track.

Itssoeasy

I forgot they’d put a chicane in the pit Lane in Brazil.

ctrl-alt-delete

Jesus, never thought I would feel sorry for Mazepin.

Heart on the sleeve there.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157863#Comment_118157863

Yeah he does care it seems.

Itssoeasy

Jesus the mercs are flying.

Itssoeasy

Nice lap by max.

Jordan 199

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157891#Comment_118157891

Taking it to the max-imum.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157900#Comment_118157900

Golf clap.

PsychoPete

Impressive pace from Hamilton

Itssoeasy

Lewis on pole and he is quick.

Faugheen

Max's Red Bull looks loose as f*ck. Savage job to put that on P2.

Faugheen

Does Hamilton take the penalty tomorrow or Sunday?

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157961#Comment_118157961

Sunday

PsychoPete

I thought they said he'd take it tomorrow?

klose

Serious pace from hamilton, P2 about as good Max could have done there. Bottas and perez looking like they'll be playing a supporting role this weekend.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157983#Comment_118157983

It'll be applied tomorrow after the sprint race. So he'll start the sprint on pole and then the penalty will be applied to his finishing position in the sprint. If he wins the sprint then he gets the 3 points but starts the race in 6th.

.42.

Hopefully no Damon Hill this weekend

klose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158010#Comment_118158010

Yeah, its funny how qualying still hasn't taken place, this evening was "setting the grid" for the sprint race qualifying tomorrow.

PaoloGotti

Am I missing something regarding the Hamilton engine news? Didn’t he just get a new one and take a penalty in Turkey? Surely that engine isn’t buggered after just 3 races.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158214#Comment_118158214

They probably calculated that rhe turkey engine would need to be nursed to the end. So they're taking an extra one now at a track that has good overtaking opportunities at the end of the long straight (in spite of Hamilton's claim that its a hard track to overtake). And then they can cycle those 2 and run those 2 engines hard until the end of the season, where max might need to be a little cautious unless he also takes a new engine.

Turkey and Brazil are tactical places to take engines rather than the Turkey engine being shagged already.

PaoloGotti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158237#Comment_118158237

Thanks man. Seems like a all or nothing offensive approach!

chicorytip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158057#Comment_118158057

... and the "Sprint" will, as on previous occasions, be more like a procession with the majority finishing in the same positions as they qualified in today. I really cannot fathom what F1 are trying to achieve with this nonsense. It's just an irritation.

Itssoeasy

https://twitter.com/croftyf1/status/1459275917088411652?s=21

It may be more than a five grid place penalty for Lewis.

Investigation into Hamilton's DRS perhaps opening too much. After all the guff about RB's rear wing.

Frank Bullitt

Sounds like his DRS was not in accordance with the tech regs.

Would be so silly if this were to happen.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158453#Comment_118158453

Yup, it would be very silly if Mercedes didn't make their car fit within the regulations.

Have a funny feeling they'll more or less get away with it though. Would usually expect an automatic DQ from the session but I don't expect them to have the balls to do it.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158471#Comment_118158471

This would be a slam dunk surely.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158394#Comment_118158394

Brazil has a much better overtake possibility then Monza or Silverstone

TCP/IP

If Lewis is not starting from the pit lane or the back of the grid it’s a disgrace.

But watch him and Merc get away with it

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158471#Comment_118158471

Yeah anyone other than Mercedes and this is a clear cut exclusion from the session, will be interesting to see if the FIA can work out how to worm their way out of it.

klose

Yikes things just get even more interesting.

afatbollix

That's what happens when you get the cars to the track late since its a back to back and make the mechanics work through the night to get the cars put together.

I feel for the poor bloke whose job that was... Prob lost Lewis the championship. F1 is brutal.

Charlie-Bravo

Wow, didn't see anything like this happening this weekend. The fact that it didn't meet the regs, then is surely a slam dunk. No different than exceeding track limits, it gets deleted! As in all lap times removed!!

Looking forward to getting the popcorn out for the Twitter reactions!

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158618#Comment_118158618

Did anyone else fail to do it right?

Red Bull were working on Checo's car 15 min before quali and it was mentioned on comms it had something to do with the late arrival of freight

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158442#Comment_118158442