Kevin Lunney abduction case: Special court judge delivers verdict - Read OP

And what was it,?

Google it or read the original thread. Not going to say in case it is deemed as speculation.

Yes.

It is no longer QH's, it has been rebranded as Mannock.

They said the reason for not naming YZ on RTE news this evening. It's not a very interesting reason.

His involvement in a seperate court case.

Can only imagine hefty 15+ yr sentences here, planned insurrectionist crimes don't go down well here, not to mention the publicised aspect.

I hope that these people will get long sentences.

I also hope some of those who live in the border communities and enabled these thugs to run amock by their silence and their deeply disturbing localism also hang their heads in shame. Too much of that carry-on went before this abduction.

The SCC doing its job once again.. detractors take note.

This is a strange case, with the constant news articles about the paymaster.

I'm not sure if I have taken the hints the wrong way or not.

Only time will tell I suppose.

I see that Sean Quinn is saying that what happened to Kevin Lunney was terrible but that the directors of Mannock (formerly Quinn) have destroyed HIS companies.. All about Sean Quinn (as he refers to himself) as usual.

'Some' hold him in high regard, some don't. You'll get as many arguments locally about Quinn as you get elsewhere.

Contrary to the bullshit and bulldust and the picturee the media love to paint of a lawless border region and the lies they tell about 'de locals', Mannock is thriving locally, it products are used locally and many many people (de locals) are working happily there. Same at Liberty (formerly Quinn Direct) and Quinn's other companies.

Kevin Lunney and his management team are locals and were brutally attacked by 'criminals' no different to criminals that are operating all over this country.

'Appear'.

Dublin 'appears' to be a criminal gang wasteland if you listened to certain media outlets. Used to be Limerick.

'Appearances' Mark - nail hit on the head there. If there is a spike in criminal activity along the border it will show in stats, maybe you can show us that in data form.

And a newspaper article sensationalising is not the kind of data being asked for.

The border region has crime problems like everywhere else.

You are 10 times more likely to die in a car accident in Cavan than Wicklow. Speed and drink are usually always the culprits.

The criminal issues, in this case, is another example of this mentality.

Speed and drink are the main causes of road traffic accidents nationally regardless of where you are unless Wicklow is full of elderly pioneers.

Are you sure there isn't other factors such as roads and population size which contribute to the statistic of 10 times more likely.

By that I mean is there 10 times more people killed per capita or 10 times the number of road deaths.

I can't say for sure but I think a greater percentage of the population in Wicklow would have good roads around them given north Wicklow is almost the greater Dublin area.

the road death statistics say otherwise. As I am currently in work avoidance mode I took the road death and accident stats from the CSO for 2018 and calculated them by 1000 population. Cavan is not top. the figures below are sorted by death/1000 desc. interestingly there isn't a wide variance in accidents/1000 but there is with deaths/1000.

We know their background blanch. Same as the background of any other criminal...the pursuit of personal gain at the expense of others.