Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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It's paid-for nonsense. IT and other media outlets still creaming from the "awareness fund".

I wonder what Africa are doing right. You would of thought they would of been wiped out by now.

Your going to have to do better than extra.ie which is an extension of the daily mail who've not been right about 1 thing since the start of this. They even printed a full reopening timeline in the Sunday version last May I think it was, government sources telling them they'd open everything in 2 weeks.... think they need new sources. Rag

I notice you didn't link the Independent article which completely counters everything mentioned in the one you posted

I mean you could say the same thing about 'flu vaccines to be fair.

The problem is that we're stuck at the point where some people are yet to accept that the goal of eliminating the virus in the community, is dead. Vaccines are providing robust protection against death and serious illness, but cannot eradicate Delta. We have had to retreat to a defendable position - lets minimise the amount of dead people - rather than aggressively trying to suppress it, because that's now impossible.

For healthy people under 50, being vaccinated eliminates the risk of ICU or death from covid to statistically negligible levels. Before vaccination, it was pretty small. After vaccination, practically non-existent.

Boosters for people over 50 and with health complications make sense, they will have a reductive effect on hospital numbers. But for everyone else, boosters will have very little protective benefit. It might mean you get no symptoms instead of slight symptoms if you catch it. Hardly worth a bilion-euro booster programme.

There is a shorter-lived transmission block, but unless you can distribute boosters to virtually everyone in about four weeks, then you are leaving exposed pockets of the population through which the infection will survive and spread to the rest once the booster wanes.

In the last two weeks, people over 55 made up about 20% of confirmed cases, and about 60% of cases hospitalised.

So the focus areas have to be; boosting these older groups, and targetting younger people with no vaccination at all. Talk of distributing boosters everywhere would just be doing something to be seen to be doing it. What would be the point?

You beat me to it. That poster must spend their waking hours trawling the internet for articles to suit their doomsday narrative/mindset. That article is nothing more than speculation and conjecture, complete with an unnamed "source" and all. The media are going to have a field day over the next few weeks preying on people's paranoia.

FWIW, I'm not saying a lockdown is impossible, anything is possible, but I think (and hope!) it's still very unlikely. I just think these sort of articles offer nothing to the debate on here.

Theres also the fairly large moral question - can we really justify giving out hundreds of millions of 3rd vaccination shots to our healthy under 60s in Europe, when only approx 10% of African people over 80 have been double vaccinated at this time?

There are billions of people around the world who still desperately need their first and second vaccination shot, who will receive a massive decrease in their chance of death from them. They need them far, far more than healthy people in Europe need a 3rd shot.

Its extremely odd to me how nobody in the media here seems to be pointing this out, given how much we usually hear about charity needs etc.

Robbing perfectly healthy people of a normal, happy life is unbelievably selfish, but the mental devastation on young people and children is not as trendy an issue as Covid 19.

How do you know, if everyone needs a booster 6 months after 2 doses how long do you think a third shot is going to last ?

Why?

They’re obsessed if you haven’t noticed.